Should the uk tiling trade be licenced...?

[Dave]

Should we be a licenced trade......it is in other countries but not the uk...


A simple yes or no.......will suffice........but if you would like to air your views then do so.......but not general chit chat please.....




p.s. poll is none public , so all votes are private....we just want to see what the majority think..

[BDS]

Yes,,,

[oldgit]

i would never join.unless it was FREE and paid for by bal mapei etc etc

[Prem Tiler]

this is a topic that gets brought up alllll the time on the window cleaners forum i frequent reason being is they have done so in Scotland.

I say no because I see the government milking hard worker's and there will still be loads of cowboys working without one because some people will employ them just to get a cheep job done

[knightonthetile]

i,d give it a go %100

[whitebeam]

I said yes but really can't see it ever happening

[village tiling]

it wouldhave to be strictly regulated or it would just turn into a money making fad and a complete waste of time

[Dave]

i would never join.unless it was FREE and paid for by bal mapei etc etc

why do you think that an adhesive manufacturer should pay for it.....?

i wouldn't want that.....

[Wow Tiling]

would like to see it but dont think it will happen to many cowboys around that would undermine it for everybody else

[BDS]

If it makes us 110% accountable for/to our trade/skills/customers then bring it on i say,where do i sign.

[Daz]

I vote yes. But......a value would need to be added to the licence, i.e. an insurance scheme for customer against a bad job, guaranteed quality of work etc.

That way a licenced tiler could charge a premium for a premium quality job, and recoup the licence fee quickly.

I think tile shops would be interested in a licencing scheme as it would mean that they could take some confidence in the tilers that they are recommending.

[Leatherface]

Yes but should not cost a fortune to be a member or have a licence

[oldgit]

why do you think that an adhesive manufacturer should pay for it.....?

i wouldn't want that.....

because if they all chipped in it would be without a single one of them backing a government based scheme they have the people in place to educate and test people and it would not have to be a money making project,but in return they would all get exposure,i would also have top end tile manufacturer's in as well.
there would also be one set of rules ie pva not pva type arguments there would be a standard we could all understand.

[Dave]

I don't think an adhesive company would be good.......it would be too much about there products etc...

Needs to be another way......what ..?.. lets see what others say.....

[oldgit]

it would need to be someone that is not interested in making money directly from tiler the way corgi has,who have lost there license just recently.
it wont never happen imo.

[doug boardley]

I think so licence tilers imo and same views as leatherface on this matter

[doug boardley]

could building control police this? with all the large format tiles about now, surely there could be a case for structural integrity etc?! altho' it'd be hard to enforce on domestic work, it could be included in a hip assesment

[A.W.]

Hi everyone

here in OZ you do need do have a license to tile. well I do admit I dont have one. yet I am still active. it would cost me around $1300. to get one. A license wont make you a Tradesman. Maybe shops and contractors should have one, and be the responsible party. just a thought.

Al

[whitebeam]

Sometimes watch the holmes on homes in Canada and they have to have a permit for almost any work that has to be done in their homes. So I think you could have a good point there Doug

[Grace'sDad]

BIG Yes and I'd pay up to £500 a year as long as it was done properly and prevented idiots from trading.

(Anything being regulated "Properly" though is a long shot in the UK at present IMHO)

[oldgit]

we dont even regulate builders in the uk so where would tilers even get a mention.

[Highlander]

It will never hapen but it should. It would go the same way as the so called TTA that is supposed to represent the fixers but has to many alliances with manufactures in the industry adhesive and tile suppliers and the fixers are at the bottom of the pile. What they forget is without the fixers where would they be.

Only thing that would work is independant fixers association without sponsorship from suppliers. TTA is supposed to be this body that discusses things with goverment but think the fixers are not being heard.

Gary

[James Spelrem]

I think all trades should be licenced Insurance does not cover a tile setter to set a toilet so if it floods the contractor is held responable and can be sued by the insurance company. I could set a toilet with my eyes closed but won't for the simple reson of my liablity insurace.

[Dan]

TTA is supposed to....

Who are they?

[Dave Ramsden]

do you think that by licensing the trade properly skilled workers would be able to charge proper set rates that we used to get rather than trying to compete with Joe Tiler who will do 30m for a tenner?!

[garythetiler]

I can only think it would be a positive step, the arguments for outway the arguments against ,as long as it doesnt become a closed shop and a cartel of big companies have too much power and say who gets which jobs and the tilers and customers interest are 1st ,not the adhesive manufacturers and other peripheral companies with vested interests

[medlar]

i voted yes but cant see it ever happening,it would be a good idea from my point of view,but i think anyone who wants to be on the register should sit some kind of exam,whether it be written or practical to see if they know there onions

Jimmy

[cornish_crofter]

I'm in the NO camp here.

Several reasons. There are areas in the country where the market is completely different. Cornwall has always been populated by general tradesmen. OK there are the specialists but there isn't the same market for specialists as there is in other parts of the country. A lot of tradesmen in this part of the world have one main trade and can diversify into other trades.

A good plumber may learn to do basic tiling. None of the bathrooms I get asked to do are anything special. The biggest challenge I've had is that wetroom TBH - photos in my profile.

To licence trades individually would put the likes of me out of business. I'm considered perfectly capable of doing what I do. I have a strong and loyal customer base.

If tiling gets licenced, then what about plastering? How many of us have rendered/skimmed a wall in preparation for tiling? What about dry lining? How does the client know that we know what length screws to use in the wall - where will it all stop.

If we MUST regulate the industry, I think tiling is one such trade where tilers should be assessed on their competence. I would suggest that the industry promotes a benchmark, which tilers can set out to achieve if they so wish. This way someone looking for a tiler can if they wish, insist that the tiler has achieved this, but the absence of this 'qualification' would not prohibit someone from tiling for a living.

If this were in place I would expect customers to ask for this if they have a marble floor to go down, but maybe not insist if they just want a kitchen splashback in 6x6.

It is also my belief that the government have had too much opportunity to screw up trade regulations. Don't even get me started on NICEIC

[atec]

yes camp, then we could have standard rates, turned a job down as the client could get some one to do it for £8 a box

[Oli]

I voted yes, but i think its a pipe dream, all the customers would need educating, there would need to be systems in place to combat people using others identities, registrations etc, or just plain faking their accreditations. Corgi has the same problem rogue traders exposed aload of people doing gas work who had forged their id's / registrations etc or just plain pretended to be someone else, which completley devalues the whole scheme. This of course would all cost money so there would have to be fees paid to fund it.