Geometric tiling ( Victorian )

[Diggy]

Hi ,
Been asked to lay a Geo' floor in Jan , I havent got a prob with mosaic as I've done plenty over the years ( 20 ) . Been doing a bit of research and looking at pics etc and the only thing really bothering me is the border.
My instinct tells me to lay border first to enable the border to run through to its natural finish before turning , then centre out the main pattern and infill etc. I appreciate there will be turns ( corners ) where this of course wont happen , but on looking at a lot of pics there seems to be a lot of duff meetings at corners where I would expect to see a natural flow around it ( ignoring of course when say 2 diagonal insets meet side by side , I'm talking about naff 3/4 cut diamonds ).

However all the info I've read so far seems to suggest laying the infill ( main floor ) first , then wrapping the border around.

Now I'm pretty hot on getting my work pretty near on the money as regards parralel and square but the info I've read begs a couple of questions( finally , soz ).

1. Are there various points in the infill at which there is a natural point to stop and wrap the border and are these pointed out? ( I understand about different shaped rooms upsetting this.)


2. What happens if borders and infills are mixed and matched?

3. Is it just the case that some borders just won't work out?

Thanks

Diggy

[keraldine]

The last one i seen they put the infil on the diagonal so the border ran its full course and the rest was infilled inside it ,

[Dave]

Hello Diggy and welcome......

Take a look at this pdf....>>>>>> http://www.originalstyle.com/downloa...de_english.pdf

It will explain the setting out etc.....also if you email Original style your measurements/room plan they will work out the design for you...showing where the border goes etc etc.....

good luck...maybe some pics eh..?..lol

[Diggy]

Hello Diggy and welcome......

good luck...maybe some pics eh..?..lol

Yeh , Cheers , I don't need help setting out a floor ., I've seen that pdf and it aint what I'm after tbh.

I'm after someone with experience of Geo' floors to tell me wether or not a continual border flow is a given . Which given some of the work I've looked at online strikes me not to be the case or it's bad setting out.

It seems to be a case of either the Infill or the Border taking priority from the stuff I've seen.




Diggy

[Dave]

If you do not need help setting out..then why the question on geo victorian floors..?...Because it is ALL about setting out...

And if you have read that link before, it tells you which way to lay that type of tile.....so can you be more precise at what you are getting at.....

Is it some particular pics that you mean or just pics in general from the net..?..

[2Balls]

Hi, For my 2 cents worth, Planning and symetric. Infill is the main picture, the border is cut to take out any bent walls ect. any 2Balls
I´ve just looked at the picture and that has nothing to do with geometric!

[Diggy]

I got off on the wrong foot , let me start again , can't find the particular photo I was after but what I'm asking is what is acceptable I suppose. The one I'd seen on a website of Geo tiling was similar to below but one side had a half diamond finishing up to the corner ( I'll try and find it later ) on the front edge of a path.

IE: The following picture , which a lovely job by the way but the left corner just hits me straight in the eye.

http://www.londonvictorianmosaicrest...an-path-02.jpg

[Diggy]

By the way in case you think I'm an idiot :0) , heres something I did recently

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...g?t=1229798770

[Dave]

By the way in case you think I'm an idiot :0) , heres something I did recently

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...g?t=1229798770

I agree the geo path border does look odd....could have been set out to fall better than that....


That photo you did.... i have seen that job somewhere before......maybe on another site...but deffo seen that before along with some other pics of the same job...

[medlar]

the path border does not appear to have been set out correctly looking at the photograph,the left corner seems to hit you right between the eyes.

[2Balls]

Maybe I´m missing the point, but By the photo you have´nt a qlue!?2Balls

[spacedout]

In a perfect world the borders will work out fine. However ive had clients that have used borders from different patterns which can cause problems. Like having to make the main pattern smaller or having to add too. Good luck mate. Ps try laying some out dry first.

[Diggy]

I agree the geo path border does look odd....could have been set out to fall better than that....


That photo you did.... i have seen that job somewhere before......maybe on another site...but deffo seen that before along with some other pics of the same job...

Thats the only pic of that job I've put on the web , I have put it on another site as well though.

[Dave]

Thats the only pic of that job I've put on the web , I have put it on another site as well though.

was it on our other site...tilerstilingstiles...?...>>>>> Members - Tile Business Network for Tilers Tiling and Tiles

[Diggy]

was it on our other site...tilerstilingstiles...?...>>>>> Members - Tile Business Network for Tilers Tiling and Tiles

No , it was on a financial website.

[Dave]

mmmmmmmmmmm...must have come across it...it's the tiling at the bottom of the stairs that i recognised first........nice work though...

[Diggy]

mmmmmmmmmmm...must have come across it...it's the tiling at the bottom of the stairs that i recognised first........nice work though...

Thankyou , like I said I'm not daft , just that in 20yrs this is something I've not really worked with thats all and was seeking some knowledge thats all.Also something I'd like to do more of as well if i can as I enjoy my work very much and am always looking for new challenges.

The house in the pic was done in three areas , 1. was the wood effect 2 . was Trav 3. Was sposed to be metal but it looked more like slate effect tbh.
Had to divide the house up into thirds , tile ground and first floor then left and right side of house walls in corresponding tile.

Might put up a few more pics at a later date.

[Dave]

Might put up a few more pics at a later date.

That would be good......we luv pics you know....

[Diggy]

Right , gotta go.

Cya man

D

[Diggy]

Ok , the penny dropped this morning once I'd sat down with the dimensions of the pieces and worked out the Hypotenuse of the sqaure pieces. Went through the various patterns and matched these measurements , so that coupled with slightly opening or closing border joints should do the trick.
As someone pointed out the only hassle would come when someone mix and mixes Infills with other borders. Thanks for your patience , I just like to know exactly what is happening with work in my head before I tackle it.

Regards.

Diggy