British standards

[deanotile]

British standards are they rules or guidelines? Just wondering what your opinion is.

[Dave]

Seen as tiling is not governed by a governing body as in not licenced like sparkys or gas guys so to speak then they are guidlines of such...unless they can be enforced then they are not rules.......
But we should try to stick to them as much as possible IMO....

[brian c]

i agree with Dave,but how many times do tilers refer to BS on a weekly basis etc...especially domestic but i presume that its different for commercial as site agents and architects etc are involved.Put it this way i have never had a customer quote to me any BS,unlike if i get a plumber for my gas boiler i will ask and request to see his corgi certificate.

[GazTech]

I would prefer if they were rules....but they are guidelines. I see some catastrophies in my occupation and hearts broken. The jobs that are done according to BS are at least safe, and are a good foundation for some kind of regulation. The rest is down to the integrity and skill of the person choosing work accepting them ,utilising and teaching by them, BS is all we have for now......Gaz

[whitebeam]

My girlfriend used to work for BS, She was working on the glass section and you would be amazed how many people would ring up checking the BS number on their double glazing to check that it was legal. Companys have to pay a yearly fee for the priviledge and the testing is stringent. The company she now works for is BS registered and they visit every year to check on health and safety. Just to finish of when visiting the tile show I was given a thing to hang round my neck with my badge on it, She made a comment that BS would,nt of allowed that because it would,nt break if it snagged or caught on something because it was around my neck.

[pjtiler]

I would prefer if they were rules....but they are guidelines. I see some catastrophies in my occupation and hearts broken. The jobs that are done according to BS are at least safe, and are a good foundation for some kind of regulation. The rest is down to the integrity and skill of the person choosing work accepting them ,utilising and teaching by them, BS is all we have for now......Gaz

you have your bal hat on there gaz
off the record
you know as well as me the BS is a load of *****
it changes day to day
you must have seen some of the crap tiles that carry the blessing of the BS label
travertine, B&Q for ex sample

[whitebeam]

To be honest pj I have never seen BS on a box of tiles but then I have never looked, Will now

[pjtiler]

To be honest pj I have never seen BS on a box of tiles but then I have never looked, Will now

tiles have to meet the BS kite mark to be sold in the UK
as far as i,m aware

[deanotile]

Unfortunately the tilers who fix them don’t

[pjtiler]

Unfortunately the tilers who fix them don’t

ooow knife in the back for our tiling school buddys
you nasty man

[deanotile]

Personally I see the standards as a measuring stick if something goes wrong the stick is held up and if you don’t measure up you don’t have a leg to stand on. It is for protection the customers and yours

[deanotile]

ooow knife in the back for our tiling school buddys
you nasty man

Sorry m8 just can’t help my self

[deanotile]

Dave can we have another category. Don’t know never read them.

[Branty]

If you try and treat them as rules you have to obey, rather than guidelines you can avoid when the situation demands it. Then its better all around. Imo

[MICK the Tiler]

I won't be a formal voter as I'm not familar with the in's and outs of BS, but in saying that an informed tiler is a smart tiler and if your new to the game you should purchase and study the standards to become familar with there contents.

Yes they are a guide and yes they are rules, but the rules will come into play if a matter goes to court, so the court will look at a particular standard as a benchmark to which the work has been carried out.

[Dave]

Dave can we have another category. Don’t know never read them.

Done.....

[pacman]

If you do a job for Mr and Mrs Blogs and they are not happy with your work they can take you to court if your work dos not conform to the British standards then you will loos so in that respect they are rules.

[Dan]

I vote rules, as when I tile they're rules. No problem can be presented to me that I can't get around sticking to the rules. After-all, it's not the tile I leave dodgy because the pipes in the way, it's the pipe I make dangerours by moving that and stick to MY rules - or the British Standard. KEEP YOUR TILES PRETTY!

[Dan]

I won't be a formal voter as I'm not familar with the in's and outs of BS, but in saying that an informed tiler is a smart tiler and if your new to the game you should purchase and study the standards to become familar with there contents.

Yes they are a guide and yes they are rules, but the rules will come into play if a matter goes to court, so the court will look at a particular standard as a benchmark to which the work has been carried out.

Spot on mate!

[Pawelzik]

DIN, EN, BS, FM, UL, GL, NFPA and all the others are guidelines.

[TilingLogistics]

I vote rules, as when I tile they're rules. No problem can be presented to me that I can't get around sticking to the rules. After-all, it's not the tile I leave dodgy because the pipes in the way, it's the pipe I make dangerours by moving that and stick to MY rules - or the British Standard. KEEP YOUR TILES PRETTY!

What about that Tent you tried to tile

Kev

[garythetiler]

bs 5385 part 1 £150 part 2 £110 part3 £110 part 4 £120 part5 £150 total around about £650-£700 for the full set why so expensive ?

[Dave]

bs 5385 part 1 £150 part 2 £110 part3 £110 part 4 £120 part5 £150 total around about £650-£700 for the full set why so expensive ?

Coz they is greedy gits..........they can be viewed for nowt at the library...but i agree should be much much cheaper....

[Sir Ramic]

Coz they is greedy gits..........they can be viewed for nowt at the library...but i agree should be much much cheaper....

Why should you have to pay anyway ?

[Dave]

Why should you have to pay anyway ?

Good question.....

[whitebeam]

Most guys would,nt pay that but it now means we,ll all be scrabbling around picking up bits here and there and trying to cover our backsides