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Discuss emulsioned walls in the Tiling Forum at TilersForums; Hi All, Got a bathroom to start next week and the walls have previously been painted with emulsion (onto plaster finish). Question is is it a suitable substrate to tile ...
          
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    Hi All,

    Got a bathroom to start next week and the walls have previously been painted with emulsion (onto plaster finish).
    Question is is it a suitable substrate to tile to or does it have to be scored up or removed?

    Tiles are ceramic 400 x 250 and suppliers sold customer tubbed gear as well but thats another issue.

    Thanks in advance,

    Mark

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    Best to remove it all Mark, prime with suitable primer and then use powdered adhesive for a tile this size.....Gaz

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    On new plaster when painted a mist coat of emulsion should used on new plaster, Trouble is most people don,t they just put thick paint on the new plaster and it can peel off after a while. Get rid of the paint
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    Get the paint off mate
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    Default Re: emulsioned walls

    what would you say is the best way of removal.

    Yesterday I had the belt sander to the walls lol !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boosha View Post
    what would you say is the best way of removal.

    Yesterday I had the belt sander to the walls lol !

    Was thinking of the sander myself mate. Did it do the job?

    Was also going to try a wire brush.

    Not sure what would be best.

    Cheers,

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    This works for me although it's a little unorthodox and will cost you a couple of cheap tubs of addy:

    Spread some cheap and nasty tubbed adhesive onto the wall with the flat side of the trowel - just enough to cover the paint.

    I find that if you leave it about one hour, then the paint will scrape off easily and cleanly using a sharp decorators scraper - the jumbo ones with a removable blade.

    It's a damn site cleaner and easier than trying to get it off mechanically.

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    Thanks all for the help,

    Emulsion now off, (not the best thing to do on a Sunday) But at least its one less thing to take care of Monday morn.
    Started sanding then scoring, then swearing and headbutting. Found best way was scraper, lot of it came off in strips like paper, can see reason why you should'nt tile on this!

    Cheers again guys

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    Take it off with a steamer

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    I know you've bot the paint off now, but similar to Grace's Dad, I spread a thin "wet" coat of the cheapest rapid set cement addy that I can get on the emulsion. Then watch it fall off when rubbed with a decorators scraper.

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    Take it off with a steamer
    Not a great idea mate.
    The steamer could cause the plaster to blow off the wall too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James@BAL View Post
    Not a great idea mate.
    The steamer could cause the plaster to blow off the wall too.
    This is true thanks for mentioning that i'm talking the one for removing wall paper though steady as you go,can only be used in some cases it has worked were the paint was already peeling or peeling when dampened

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    I never thought of a steamer to think of the times I have sanded it off too

    I would think it would be quite unlikley it would bring the plaster off in a house under 40 years old. Modern plaser is normaly pretty OK. After all it is usually used to steam wallpaper off plaster with no harm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wylie View Post
    This is true thanks for mentioning that i'm talking the one for removing wall paper though steady as you go,can only be used in some cases it has worked were the paint was already peeling or peeling when dampened
    I should probably have mention try a small sample area first

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    Quote Originally Posted by David - Tradetiler View Post
    I never thought of a steamer to think of the times I have sanded it off too

    I would think it would be quite unlikley it would bring the plaster off in a house under 40 years old. Modern plaser is normaly pretty OK. After all it is usually used to steam wallpaper off plaster with no harm

    The heat off a steam stripper can cause skim coats to pop if left on too long........

    That i know coz i have done it stripping wallpaper.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    The heat off a steam stripper can cause skim coats to pop if left on too long........

    That i know coz i have done it stripping wallpaper.......
    This wouldn't have anything to do with the heat and moisture penetrating the plaster and activating the PVA sealant would it?.........not that old chestnut again............
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