Dot & Dab travertine?

[spanky]

I am pretty sure he isn't the tiler, given the fact he is here, and I haven't seen him on a PDA typing. LOL

[charlie1]

No I was half joking when I suggested he was the tiler however there does seem to be a lack of concern from grumpy from your side consedering the H&S nature of this isssue. I do think at times people can get a bit hung up about 100% coverage but when you are dealing with extreamly large format thick tiles made from natural stone and porcelain then you have reason to worry.

from what i can see from the photo,s the whole lot needs taking down at re tiling
for a tile of this size and weight there no where near enough adhesive contacting the wall surface (dotted or not ) was the wall primed ???? it doesn't look like it to me
just for the record spot fixing was the recommend method of fixing large format marble and granite back in the sixties (but NEVER on to plaster board )
if i was you i would see if the job can be salvaged by cleaning and reusing where possible
i would,nt hold much truck with british standards they move the goalposts to suit
i really hope you resolve this situation without recourse to the courts

[spanky]

Well it appears that they have no intention of redoing the job unless I provide more tiles and pay again.

Depsite the fact that both adhesive firms state catagorically that it is wrong, 1 is willing to put this into writing, I did not ask the other.

I have been told to write to them stating that the work is not fit for purpose under the sale of good and services act 1982.

I should give them the opportunity to put it right without further expense to myself.

I have been told to send this recorded delivery.

Your thoughts and does anyone know a surveyor who will come in and give a report as to the workmanship completed so far in case I have to go to court?

Thanks

Tony

[grumpy]

Considering the location of these tiles i would be more bothered about the lack of movement joints!
I would think that most of the woes spanky is having could have been avoided if he had picked a tiler that he knew was a time served tradesman,checked some of his references,had a look at some previous work this tiler has done,made sure he has the correct and up to date insurance cover and considering the cost of the tiles it would have been a good idea to get the spec from the adhesive manufacturer first.
its worth noting that adhesive manufacturers will always give a belt and braces answer to cover themselves.Over the years ive seen tiles stuck on with evostick that have still be well stuck 25 years on.And anyone who has tried to remove tiles stuck on with fix'n'grout will know how well the so called lesser adhesives can perform.Mechanical fixing of granite to shop fronts never calls for 100% contact.

[spanky]

The company not only came recommended, the original tiler did too, I saw him working when he started, he did it to the letter until the plasterboard started to come away from the walls where the 2nd plasterer had skimped on material and time.

By the time the plasterer had rectified the problem the first tiler was no longer available as he was on another job.

The contractor then supplied the 2nd Tiler who obviously had much less experience.

He even had to go to the local tile shop to ask if he could cut them with an anle grinder.

I really don't need all this, all I want is a bathroom.

I figured I was paying a fair price to have it done, 3 quotes were had before the job started, I picked the middle one for 2 reasons, recommendation and because he was the middle quote.

The 3 quotes were not all that far from each other.

I now require 3 quotes for the work to be re-done, 1 of them will be chosen as I have little or no intention of letting them back in, unless they have a massive change of heart and can convince me they will actually do it correctly.

Anyone? I am in Ansley Village, just outside Nuneaton.

Luckily I am in the position to be able to pay another supplier regardless of the outcome of this matter.

I work from home so am about 90% of the time, from 8am till 10pm shall we say.

PM me if your interested.

I do love this forum.

Thanks again

Originally Posted by grumpy

Considering the location of these tiles i would be more bothered about the lack of movement joints!
I would think that most of the woes spanky is having could have been avoided if he had picked a tiler that he knew was a time served tradesman,checked some of his references,had a look at some previous work this tiler has done,made sure he has the correct and up to date insurance cover and considering the cost of the tiles it would have been a good idea to get the spec from the adhesive manufacturer first.
its worth noting that adhesive manufacturers will always give a belt and braces answer to cover themselves.Over the years ive seen tiles stuck on with evostick that have still be well stuck 25 years on.And anyone who has tried to remove tiles stuck on with fix'n'grout will know how well the so called lesser adhesives can perform.Mechanical fixing of granite to shop fronts never calls for 100% contact.

this is a job i did a few years back in lisbon (granite ) every tile was spot fixed

[spanky]

Like the previous post though, I bet they're not stuck to plasterboard.

Originally Posted by spanky

Like the previous post though, I bet they're not stuck to plasterboard.

quite right
sand and cement render and copper L pins
every 3 course
thats my point!!!

[grumpy]

I did wonder about the angle grinder on the floor.I put a job right last year that a so called tiler messed up.He also had just an angle grinder to cut tiles!Sounds like you've had a bad experience spanky.I would have said if the only issue was dabbing the tiles then i would'nt worry,to be honest if that is cement based adhesive there isnt a hope in hell that those tiles will come off.However it does sound from what your saying that it would be better to sack the guy off and get it done by someone who knows what they are doing.

[deanotile]

Originally Posted by spanky

OK, I've pulled a couple of tiles off, right at the top of the wall, see pictures:
(although they had only been up 5 or 6 hours they came off with no effort whatsoever.)





You are most definately correct, this is getting re-done.

I will continue to post what happens.

It's such a shame as it looks beautiful.

Thanks to you all.

Grumpy if you call that fixed correctly you should not be in business as a tiler you should be in a rodeo with the rest of the cowboys. Personally it makes me sick to my stomach to have to listen to people like you make excuses and try to justify you sub standard work. We have British standards for a reason m8. This man is paying good money he deserves a good job

[spanky]

To be fair he did go and buy a tile cutter also, although I figured he would have had one.

He bought a Plasplugs one. Protrade Plus or something.