Dot & Dab travertine?

[Varley]

If I were you I would ring the adhesive company up whilst the tiler and/or contractor is there, put the phone on speakerphone and pass it to the tiler/contractor. I will bet that the manufacturers do not condone this fixing method. This way the contractor will have little choice.

[uug197h]

I think i can safely say that no one thinks its been done right and if you are going to pay for it it needs doing right, remember at the end of the day YOU have to live with it and all the problems it will bring you may think its going to cost a lot to start again but if the tiles fall of the wall and smash your bath its you that has to pay for it. if a tile falls of when your in the shower who will pay for your wages if you get hurt, only pay for a good job not a bodge job

[CJ again]

So Spanky..............Wots it to be ?????????????????

[saintdom]

it gets even worse now you have said they are putting in a shower cubicle, at least tell us that they have tanked the room sufficiently, PLEASE. 12.5 mm plasterboard will not last long if subjected to constant moisture, it will just turn too mush. Too be fair i dont tile much but do plaster and am surprised the room wasnt sand and cement rendered or at least hardwalled when you are talking 30kg sq m. this seems too heavy for D+d plasterboard and when wet it stands neigh chance.

I really hope you can get these mugs to do it right, it can be a nervous time when confronting tradesmen but rather that then wasting 1000s of puonds.

good luck

[spanky]

I'm stuck, I want to tell them to rip it off, but we are now wondering where we go from here.

If I put myself in the contractors shoes, who I am sure knows it isn't right, what would you say?

I am currently out £1000 worth of tiles, which I guess I should expect him to replace, I should also expect him to rip it out, dispose of it, re-plasterboard it then re-tile it.

I would imagine he is going to tell me to get lost.

We have already paid a sizeable deposit, although I do think if it came to the crunch I could get every penny of that back, although that may involve judicious use of the County Court.

Do you see my problem?

On top of that, we have 2 babies under 2 years old and we have had no bathroom for almost 3 weeks now. This is our only bathroom.

[uug197h]

do whats right not what keeps the peace, if your babys get injured you will blame yourself and can you live with that? at the end of the day its your choice YOU HAVE THE FINAL SAY

[spanky]

What would be your reply to a customer who said this to you:

Those 35 sqm of tile I purchased have been fitted wrongly and may very well fall off and kill my child.

I want you to remove them, replace them and refit them the way it should have been done from the start.

I don't expect to have to pay again for this.......

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I can tell you
that I am pretty well decided to have it out in the morning, I just want to be armed, the tiler will be here at 8.00am or so, before most of these companies are open.

I imagine he will phone the main contractor, then quit the job.

[Dave]

hi spanky....you hit the nail on the head there........2 babies under 2......you do not have enough adhesive behind those tiles to firmly hold them....you should have 90% minimum ..


Your tile fixer is wrong FULL STOP to fix like that with those tiles.....

you should have a solid fix with that type of tile no if's or but's......

Phone these comps and they will tell you the same....

Building Adhesives Limited
Longton Road, Trentham
Stoke-on-Trent
ST4 8JB
Tel: +44 (0) 1782 591100
Fax: +44 (0) 1782 591101



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ARDEX UK Limited Homefield Road, Haverhill, Suffolk CB9 8QP UK.
Tel: +44 (0)1440 714939 Fax: +44 (0)1440 716660
Technical Services Fax: +44 (0)1440 716640 E-mail: info@ardex.co.uk
Registered in England No. 668297





All will tell you the same.........


let us know which way you go.....

[brian c]

PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE AS SOON AS HE ARRIVES.

The job should never ever have been dot and dabbed is he definately a tiler?

[brian c]

good post Dave,at the rescue again m8.TOP BLOKE

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE OF WHAT DAVE HAS SAID SPANKY.

[Fekin]

Im sorry spanky but I would never ever put the safety of my kids in the bath at risk just for saving a bit of time.

The method that your tiling is being done is in my view and everyone elses on here is not safe or correct for that size and weight of tile.

A propperly fixed tile no matter the weight should stay on the wall for ever, but what you have in your home is not fixed propper and is wide open to failure, and if failure happens, whats it going to be ? , a cracked tile, or it simply comes away from the wall without notice, might be a year from now, or later, or earlier, or never, but thats the gamble your going to accept if they do not start again with a peopper bed of adhesive.

Dot and dabbing any tile is widely regarded as "cowboy'ish", even light weight ceramics, but it's so much worse being the tile you have there.

If they won't listen to you, go online and show them this thread of yours, and let them read it in full.
We're all tilers on here, and to hazzard a guess you've probably got a few hundred years of combined experiance in this thread saying the same thing, that what your tiler is doing is wrong.
They are not going to get any credible expert proof that what they are doing is fine.

It's up to you now.

[Fekin]

Originally Posted by spanky

What would be your reply to a customer who said this to you:

Those 35 sqm of tile I purchased have been fitted wrongly and may very well fall off and kill my child.

I want you to remove them, replace them and refit them the way it should have been done from the start.

I don't expect to have to pay again for this.......

******************************

I can tell you
that I am pretty well decided to have it out in the morning, I just want to be armed, the tiler will be here at 8.00am or so, before most of these companies are open.

I imagine he will phone the main contractor, then quit the job.

My customers wouldn't say this to me because I don't dot and dab tiles, and everything I do can and would be backed up from third parties.