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**whitebeam** · 23-06-2008

Might be handy for newbies or for the more experienced tilers, It's a very cheap software for pricing any kind of work. It has no prices set out in the system, You add your own material and labour rates and so simple. Not everybodys cup of tea but for just over a tenner/$20 and by paypal or cheque worth a look. The way I found it was, Google, m8 software scroll down the page and you will see Cnet in that is m8 software click on it will take you to cnet again click m8 software then look for estimate, It's downloadable and you can have 14 day free trial, Try it. Sorry the long winded but it,s the best I can do.

**sWe** · 23-06-2008

What's the software called then? Can't seem to see that you mentioned it...

I made a spreadsheet for pricing and material amount estimates (link in my signature). Check it out if you're into that.

EDIT: Nevermind, found it..... M8 Software's "Estimate"...

**whitebeam** · 23-06-2008

Hi swe, I do dry linning, plastering and even the metal systems as well

**sWe** · 23-06-2008

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Originally Posted by whitebeam

Hi swe, I do dry linning, plastering and even the metal systems as well

IC. Wouldn't be particularly hard to add the first two ones to a spreadsheet. Wouldn't know anything about the third one.

And oh, I just remembered that the sheet I've got up here is the one for calculating material amounts and costs; not job pricing as a whole. I've made myself a job pricing spreadsheet with f-ing loads of variables I can fill in, but I haven't translated it to English yet...

**whitebeam** · 23-06-2008

You keep having these long weekends

garythetiler · 23-06-2008

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Originally Posted by sWe

What's the software called then? Can't seem to see that you mentioned it...

I made a spreadsheet for pricing and material amount estimates (link in my signature). Check it out if you're into that.

EDIT: Nevermind, found it..... M8 Software's "Estimate"...

hi swe i was wondering do the lads in sweden work on prices from a price tarif book as the german tilers do ?

**sWe** · 23-06-2008

You mean fixed pricelists? Price setting varies between companies, though there are going rates, if that's what you mean. Sure, people keep an eye on the competition, but there's no "book" that I'm aware of.

garythetiler · 23-06-2008

the germans use a system with their guys where the prices are worked out by the time it takes to do the tiling job and you are paid accordingly these rates are agreed by the employers and the unions just wondering if you have the same system in sweden

**whitebeam** · 23-06-2008

Most price books in this country don't even mention natural stone they use small ceramics as an example or quarrys

**sWe** · 24-06-2008

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Originally Posted by garythetiler

the germans use a system with their guys where the prices are worked out by the time it takes to do the tiling job and you are paid accordingly these rates are agreed by the employers and the unions just wondering if you have the same system in sweden

Well, most employees get either a fixed per hour wage plus extra pay for overtime etc, or a performance based salary. Performance based salary tends to work roughly like this:

You get a basic salary, which is kind of low, but you can survive on it. When you're working, you get a certain number of objects to complete within a certain timeframe. Say, for example, that you get one month to complete x number of bathrooms. If you finish exactly on time, you get a predetermined bonus. For every day you finish early, your bonus increases in size with predetermined percentage, up to a point. Vice versa, for every day you finish late, the bonus shrinks, and after a predetermined number of days, the bonus part of the salary disapears entirely, or almost entirely, depending on circumstances.

That's simplified, but roughly how it works for many construction workers in Sweden. Mainly used on commercial jobs.

So, the short of it: Normally, wages are either fixed per hour, or determined by how fast you can complete a given job, rather than how long a job should take. The target dates are normally calculated and agreed upon by both the employers and the unions, so that they're resonable, and there are quite strict guidelines on how to do that.

Small subcontractors normally work on either per hour or per sqm, while larger subcontractors commonly take out a per sqm price, while paying their employees performance based salaries.