Tiling Isn't a Word?

[Dan]

At various points in my tile side of life i've heard a few people say that 'tiling' isn't actually a word.

I'd agree to the point but I just thought I'd look it up and it IS in the Oxford Dictionary. How sad am I? lol And tiler is down as a noun related to Tile and doesn't have it's own description.

I just thought I'd say.

[Pawelzik]

Hello Dan. For me as a foreigner and not having the full knowledge about the english language I found your a.m. thread isn´t wrong thinking about it.

For the verb translated german to english it would be more common to say "tile laying (engl.) = Fliesen legen (germ.)" or "tile setting (engl.) = Fliesen ansetzen (germ.)".

Acc. to your question I wondered if "tiling" is a verb in german too, allthough I have never heard and yes, acc. to the german "Duden" the word "fliesen" is a verb and describes "fliesen legen = laying tiles". Thank you for this thought.

By the way:
The man/woman who does the tiling is called "Fliesenleger = Tile layer" ! Not only "tiler".

With regards from Germany, Martin

[Dan]

Originally Posted by Pawelzik

Hello Dan. For me as a foreigner and not aving the full knowledge about the english labguage your a.m. thread isn´t wrong thinking about it.

Translated german to english it would be more common to say "tile laying (engl.) = Fliesen legen (germ.)" or "tile setting (engl.) = Fliesen ansetzen (germ.)".

Acc. to your question I wondered if "tiling" is a verb in german too, allthough I have never heard and yes, acc. to the german "Duden" the word "fliesen" is a verb and describes "fliesen legen = laying tiles". Thank you for this thought.

By the way:
The man/woman who does the tiling is called "Fliesenleger = Tile layer" ! Not only "tiler".

With regards from Germany, Martin

Thanks for that my Friend. I appreciate your contribution as I thought this thread wouldn't get replied to to be honest.

US/Canada would say Tile Setter too. I know the term Tile Fixer is often used here perhaps more commonly than 'Tiler'. But when I first did searches to find out what is searched for mostly in the UK (to choose the domain name) I found "Tiler" was used more commonly than "Tile Fixer" or any other variation.

It's always bugged me a little thinking we use the words Tiler and Tiling although they're not actually words though I'm pleased to say they're now in the Oxford Dictionary. I'm sure I looked some years ago and couldn't find them listed - I know common 'slang' words often get added to the Oxford here and perahaps it's just one of them.

I remember once some guy to do with the Oxford Dictionary was using BBC Radio 1 to advertise the fact that they're looking for more words to add to it. As part of the evolution of the English language.

Just some boring useless information there.

[Pawelzik]

Originally Posted by Dan

Just some boring useless information there.

My dear Dan, minimum 2 persons didn´t find it boring.

[Dan]

It's looking like a maximum of 2 people too.

[grumpygrouter]

Nice to know we "officially" exist Dan. lol.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by grumpygrouter

Nice to know we "officially" exist Dan. lol.

That's what I thought lol.

I remember a post where a guy said he was pronouncing our forum as 'The Tia-Ling Forum'. And it's been on my mind since then lol.

[wetdec]

Thats why I am Tiler.......Non descript.......tiling related

[sWe]

Originally Posted by Pawelzik

Hello Dan. For me as a foreigner and not having the full knowledge about the english language I found your a.m. thread isn´t wrong thinking about it.

For the verb translated german to english it would be more common to say "tile laying (engl.) = Fliesen legen (germ.)" or "tile setting (engl.) = Fliesen ansetzen (germ.)".

Acc. to your question I wondered if "tiling" is a verb in german too, allthough I have never heard and yes, acc. to the german "Duden" the word "fliesen" is a verb and describes "fliesen legen = laying tiles". Thank you for this thought.

By the way:
The man/woman who does the tiling is called "Fliesenleger = Tile layer" ! Not only "tiler".

With regards from Germany, Martin

Equivialents in Swedish:

Tiling = Plattsättning (most common)
Tile setting = Plattsättning (same as the previous)
Tile laying = Plattläggning

Tiler = Plattsättare (most common)
Tile setter/fixer = Plattsättare (same as the previous)
Tile layer = Plattläggare

To tile = Att sätta plattor (most common)
To set/fix tiles = Att sätta plattor (same as the previous)
To lay tile = Att lägga plattor
To tile = Att kakla (refers to tiling walls with regular ceramics, though laymen use it to describe pretty much all tiling)

Breakdown:

Platta = Tile
En platta = A tile
Plattor = Tiles
Platt = plural indefinite caseless form of Platta
Sättare= Fixer/setter
Sättning = Setting
Läggare = Layer
Läggning = Layer


A few more...

Kakel = Ceramics (refering to the tile type)
Keramik = Ceramic (refering to the material)
Klinker = Porcelain (refers to the tile type; the direct translation of porcelain (Porslin) more commonly refers to the material sanitary wares are normally made from)
Granitkeramik = Porcellanato/Stoneware (or more accuratly "Granite ceramics)
Sten = Stone
Granit = Granite
Marmor = Marble
Travertin = Travertine

Fix = Adhesive (refers to cement based thinset adhesives)
Lim = Adhesive/glue (refers to dispersion adhesives)
Fog = Grout (also means "joint")
Mjukfog = Movement joint (or more accuratly "soft joint")
Bruk = Mortar
Flytspackel = SLC, or more accuratly "Float screed"
Avjämningsmassa = Leveling compound
Fuktisolering = Waterproofing (or more accuratly "damp insulation)

Vattensåg / vattenskärare / kakelsåg = Wet saw / Wet cutter / Tile saw
Kakelskärare / Skärmaskin = Tile cutter / Cutting machine
Tång = Nipper
Fixkam = Notched trowel (adhesive comb)
Slev = Trowel
Tvättplatta = Sponge float (washing pad)
Fogsvamp = Grout sponge
Fogbräda = Grout float (Grout board), or "fogplatta" (grout pad)

Etc etc...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_grammar
http://www.personal.psu.edu/adr10/swedish.html
http://www.slayradio.org/mastering_swedish.php

Edit: Oh, forgot an important one:

Att kakla = To tile (refers to tiling walls with regular ceramics, though laymen use it to describe pretty much all tiling)

[crash]

tiling is a highly skilled art form, the problem is many think thay know what it means but only a few realy do

[Dan]

Originally Posted by sWe

Equivialents in Swedish:

Tiling = Plattsättning (most common)
Tile setting = Plattsättning (same as the previous)
Tile laying = Plattläggning

Tiler = Plattsättare (most common)
Tile setter/fixer = Plattsättare (same as the previous)
Tile layer = Plattläggare

To tile = Att sätta plattor (most common)
To set/fix tiles = Att sätta plattor (same as the previous)
To lay tile = Att lägga plattor

Breakdown:

Platta = Tile
En platta = A tile
Plattor = Tiles
Platt = plural indefinite caseless form of Platta
Sättare= Fixer/setter
Sättning = Setting
Läggare = Layer
Läggning = Layer


A few more...

Kakel = Ceramics (refering to the tile type)
Keramik = Ceramic (refering to the material)
Klinker = Porcelain (refers to the tile type; the direct translation of porcelain (Porslin) more commonly refers to the material sanitary wares are normally made from)
Granitkeramik = Porcellanato/Stoneware (or more accuratly "Granite ceramics)
Sten = Stone
Granit = Granite
Marmor = Marble
Travertin = Travertine

Fix = Adhesive (refers to cement based thinset adhesives)
Lim = Adhesive/glue (refers to dispersion adhesives)
Fog = Grout (also means "joint")
Mjukfog = Movement joint (or more accuratly "soft joint")
Bruk = Mortar
Flytspackel = SLC, or more accuratly "Float screed"
Avjämningsmassa = Leveling compound
Fuktisolering = Waterproofing (or more accuratly "damp insulation)

Vattensåg / vattenskärare / kakelsåg = Wet saw / Wet cutter / Tile saw
Kakelskärare / Skärmaskin = Tile cutter / Cutting machine
Tång = Nipper
Fixkam = Notched trowel (adhesive comb)
Slev = Trowel
Tvättplatta = Sponge float (washing pad)
Fogsvamp = Grout sponge
Fogbräda = Grout float (Grout board), or "fogplatta" (grout pad)

Etc etc...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_grammar
http://www.personal.psu.edu/adr10/swedish.html
http://www.slayradio.org/mastering_swedish.php

WOW. Thanks for that mate, though it's a bit like our MSN chat the other night lol.

Originally Posted by crash

tiling is a highly skilled art form, the problem is many think thay know what it means but only a few realy do

And you're right there. We've even just heard of a Granfix rep saying you can add water to cement based adhesives AFTER it's started to cure! Even Granfix reps need to learn something it seems.

[sWe]

Originally Posted by Dan

WOW. Thanks for that mate, though it's a bit like our MSN chat the other night lol.

Albeit a bit more comprehensive