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    Default Tiling Isn't a Word?

    At various points in my tile side of life i've heard a few people say that 'tiling' isn't actually a word.

    I'd agree to the point but I just thought I'd look it up and it IS in the Oxford Dictionary. How sad am I? lol And tiler is down as a noun related to Tile and doesn't have it's own description.

    I just thought I'd say.
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    Hello Dan. For me as a foreigner and not having the full knowledge about the english language I found your a.m. thread isnīt wrong thinking about it.

    For the verb translated german to english it would be more common to say "tile laying (engl.) = Fliesen legen (germ.)" or "tile setting (engl.) = Fliesen ansetzen (germ.)".

    Acc. to your question I wondered if "tiling" is a verb in german too, allthough I have never heard and yes, acc. to the german "Duden" the word "fliesen" is a verb and describes "fliesen legen = laying tiles". Thank you for this thought.

    By the way:
    The man/woman who does the tiling is called "Fliesenleger = Tile layer" ! Not only "tiler".

    With regards from Germany, Martin
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    Default Re: Tiling Isn't a Word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawelzik View Post
    Hello Dan. For me as a foreigner and not aving the full knowledge about the english labguage your a.m. thread isnīt wrong thinking about it.

    Translated german to english it would be more common to say "tile laying (engl.) = Fliesen legen (germ.)" or "tile setting (engl.) = Fliesen ansetzen (germ.)".

    Acc. to your question I wondered if "tiling" is a verb in german too, allthough I have never heard and yes, acc. to the german "Duden" the word "fliesen" is a verb and describes "fliesen legen = laying tiles". Thank you for this thought.

    By the way:
    The man/woman who does the tiling is called "Fliesenleger = Tile layer" ! Not only "tiler".

    With regards from Germany, Martin
    Thanks for that my Friend. I appreciate your contribution as I thought this thread wouldn't get replied to to be honest.

    US/Canada would say Tile Setter too. I know the term Tile Fixer is often used here perhaps more commonly than 'Tiler'. But when I first did searches to find out what is searched for mostly in the UK (to choose the domain name) I found "Tiler" was used more commonly than "Tile Fixer" or any other variation.

    It's always bugged me a little thinking we use the words Tiler and Tiling although they're not actually words though I'm pleased to say they're now in the Oxford Dictionary. I'm sure I looked some years ago and couldn't find them listed - I know common 'slang' words often get added to the Oxford here and perahaps it's just one of them.

    I remember once some guy to do with the Oxford Dictionary was using BBC Radio 1 to advertise the fact that they're looking for more words to add to it. As part of the evolution of the English language.

    Just some boring useless information there.
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    Default Re: Tiling Isn't a Word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Just some boring useless information there.
    My dear Dan, minimum 2 persons didnīt find it boring.

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    Default Re: Tiling Isn't a Word?

    It's looking like a maximum of 2 people too.
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    Nice to know we "officially" exist Dan. lol.
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    Default Re: Tiling Isn't a Word?

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpygrouter View Post
    Nice to know we "officially" exist Dan. lol.
    That's what I thought lol.

    I remember a post where a guy said he was pronouncing our forum as 'The Tia-Ling Forum'. And it's been on my mind since then lol.
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    Thats why I am Tiler.......Non descript.......tiling related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawelzik View Post
    Hello Dan. For me as a foreigner and not having the full knowledge about the english language I found your a.m. thread isnīt wrong thinking about it.

    For the verb translated german to english it would be more common to say "tile laying (engl.) = Fliesen legen (germ.)" or "tile setting (engl.) = Fliesen ansetzen (germ.)".

    Acc. to your question I wondered if "tiling" is a verb in german too, allthough I have never heard and yes, acc. to the german "Duden" the word "fliesen" is a verb and describes "fliesen legen = laying tiles". Thank you for this thought.

    By the way:
    The man/woman who does the tiling is called "Fliesenleger = Tile layer" ! Not only "tiler".

    With regards from Germany, Martin
    Equivialents in Swedish:

    Tiling = Plattsättning (most common)
    Tile setting = Plattsättning (same as the previous)
    Tile laying = Plattläggning

    Tiler = Plattsättare (most common)
    Tile setter/fixer = Plattsättare (same as the previous)
    Tile layer = Plattläggare

    To tile = Att sätta plattor (most common)
    To set/fix tiles = Att sätta plattor (same as the previous)
    To lay tile = Att lägga plattor
    To tile = Att kakla (refers to tiling walls with regular ceramics, though laymen use it to describe pretty much all tiling)

    Breakdown:

    Platta = Tile
    En platta = A tile
    Plattor = Tiles
    Platt = plural indefinite caseless form of Platta
    Sättare= Fixer/setter
    Sättning = Setting
    Läggare = Layer
    Läggning = Layer


    A few more...

    Kakel = Ceramics (refering to the tile type)
    Keramik = Ceramic (refering to the material)
    Klinker = Porcelain (refers to the tile type; the direct translation of porcelain (Porslin) more commonly refers to the material sanitary wares are normally made from)
    Granitkeramik = Porcellanato/Stoneware (or more accuratly "Granite ceramics)
    Sten = Stone
    Granit = Granite
    Marmor = Marble
    Travertin = Travertine

    Fix = Adhesive (refers to cement based thinset adhesives)
    Lim = Adhesive/glue (refers to dispersion adhesives)
    Fog = Grout (also means "joint")
    Mjukfog = Movement joint (or more accuratly "soft joint")
    Bruk = Mortar
    Flytspackel = SLC, or more accuratly "Float screed"
    Avjämningsmassa = Leveling compound
    Fuktisolering = Waterproofing (or more accuratly "damp insulation)

    Vattensåg / vattenskärare / kakelsåg = Wet saw / Wet cutter / Tile saw
    Kakelskärare / Skärmaskin = Tile cutter / Cutting machine
    Tång = Nipper
    Fixkam = Notched trowel (adhesive comb)
    Slev = Trowel
    Tvättplatta = Sponge float (washing pad)
    Fogsvamp = Grout sponge
    Fogbräda = Grout float (Grout board), or "fogplatta" (grout pad)

    Etc etc...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_grammar
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/adr10/swedish.html
    http://www.slayradio.org/mastering_swedish.php

    Edit: Oh, forgot an important one:

    Att kakla = To tile (refers to tiling walls with regular ceramics, though laymen use it to describe pretty much all tiling)

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    Default Re: Tiling Isn't a Word?

    tiling is a highly skilled art form, the problem is many think thay know what it means but only a few realy do

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    Quote Originally Posted by sWe View Post
    Equivialents in Swedish:

    Tiling = Plattsättning (most common)
    Tile setting = Plattsättning (same as the previous)
    Tile laying = Plattläggning

    Tiler = Plattsättare (most common)
    Tile setter/fixer = Plattsättare (same as the previous)
    Tile layer = Plattläggare

    To tile = Att sätta plattor (most common)
    To set/fix tiles = Att sätta plattor (same as the previous)
    To lay tile = Att lägga plattor

    Breakdown:


    Platta = Tile
    En platta = A tile
    Plattor = Tiles
    Platt = plural indefinite caseless form of Platta
    Sättare= Fixer/setter
    Sättning = Setting
    Läggare = Layer
    Läggning = Layer


    A few more...

    Kakel = Ceramics (refering to the tile type)
    Keramik = Ceramic (refering to the material)
    Klinker = Porcelain (refers to the tile type; the direct translation of porcelain (Porslin) more commonly refers to the material sanitary wares are normally made from)
    Granitkeramik = Porcellanato/Stoneware (or more accuratly "Granite ceramics)
    Sten = Stone
    Granit = Granite
    Marmor = Marble
    Travertin = Travertine

    Fix = Adhesive (refers to cement based thinset adhesives)
    Lim = Adhesive/glue (refers to dispersion adhesives)
    Fog = Grout (also means "joint")
    Mjukfog = Movement joint (or more accuratly "soft joint")
    Bruk = Mortar
    Flytspackel = SLC, or more accuratly "Float screed"
    Avjämningsmassa = Leveling compound
    Fuktisolering = Waterproofing (or more accuratly "damp insulation)

    Vattensåg / vattenskärare / kakelsåg = Wet saw / Wet cutter / Tile saw
    Kakelskärare / Skärmaskin = Tile cutter / Cutting machine
    Tång = Nipper
    Fixkam = Notched trowel (adhesive comb)
    Slev = Trowel
    Tvättplatta = Sponge float (washing pad)
    Fogsvamp = Grout sponge
    Fogbräda = Grout float (Grout board), or "fogplatta" (grout pad)

    Etc etc...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_grammar
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/adr10/swedish.html
    http://www.slayradio.org/mastering_swedish.php
    WOW. Thanks for that mate, though it's a bit like our MSN chat the other night lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by crash View Post
    tiling is a highly skilled art form, the problem is many think thay know what it means but only a few realy do
    And you're right there. We've even just heard of a Granfix rep saying you can add water to cement based adhesives AFTER it's started to cure! Even Granfix reps need to learn something it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    WOW. Thanks for that mate, though it's a bit like our MSN chat the other night lol.
    Albeit a bit more comprehensive

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    my phone doesnt seem to think tiling is a real word, no matter how many times i try and type tiling on a txt, its comes up with "ugling" so i have to manually spell it (tuh!) yet it adds other words to the dictionary that it doesnt previously know

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrspoon View Post
    my phone doesnt seem to think tiling is a real word, no matter how many times i try and type tiling on a txt, its comes up with "ugling" so i have to manually spell it (tuh!) yet it adds other words to the dictionary that it doesnt previously know
    I hear your ugling work is coming on alright Mrs Poon.
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    sure is, well kinda, im not happy with it but they are so thats all that counts i guess, tho i did do my first floor today that i was a bit worried about, would have done it last wednesday but the primer took forever to dry and had to prat about measuring up another apartment and ring round to sort out the tiles for it, which ive said they can do cos i cant afford it (tho i can), but yeah now its done im much happier, grout it tomorow and get the wetroom floor tiled

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrspoon View Post
    sure is, well kinda, im not happy with it but they are so thats all that counts i guess, tho i did do my first floor today that i was a bit worried about, would have done it last wednesday but the primer took forever to dry and had to prat about measuring up another apartment and ring round to sort out the tiles for it, which ive said they can do cos i cant afford it (tho i can), but yeah now its done im much happier, grout it tomorow and get the wetroom floor tiled
    New job on Wednesday then mate?
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    yeah same block of apartments, one "nearly"down, 23 to go, had to leave early today as i still work part time at bloomin sainsburys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I hear your ugling work is coming on alright Mrs Poon.

    I think it's mr spoon.......

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    O,M,G....lol....Well im a ceramic wall and Floor covering technician

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