QEP - Lash system

[teebum]

Has anyone used this?
I have and wondered if anyone else had and what they thought of it.

[CUSH68]

been on website and seen the video mate,but thats as far as I got.

Would definately give them a go but can't find a UK supplier.
Where did you get them and were they any good?

Cheers

Mark

[Dave]

Just another gimmick...........if you are a good fixer , you don't need to use this type of product..........

Probably good for diy'ers but not a trades man..IMO......

[teebum]

Very aukward to use, pushing wedges into the clips really hurts your thumbs.
The clips could do with coming in 2mm, 5mm etc thickness to save putting in a spacer, as this was also time consuming.
Problems if any adhesive at all got between the clip and the tile, it caused grout lines to widen.
Impossible to lift a tile and relay it. And if you dont finish the job all in one day there are problems carrying on where the addy has dried under the clip causing the next tile to sit proud. Then you have to try and either get the clip out and not use one on that joint or try to dig addy from under it, both very difficult. We were laying porc tiles to test the stuff and got a few chipped tiles when trying to remove the clips, hence we had to lift and relay some.
My overall thoughts are that they are clumsy, hard work and not worth the hassle. The floor (28M²) took at least 1/2 a day longer to lay.
These are purely my personal thoughts and I am not saying that everyone will find them as painful to use.

[teebum]

Just another gimmick...........if you are a good fixer , you don't need to use this type of product..........

I am sure that even the best tilers in the world get lippage, these are supposed to help eliminate this on very expensive jobs. A good professional will always accept help if it is available to do a better job IMO

[wetdec]

I am sure that even the best tilers in the world get lippage, these are supposed to help eliminate this on very expensive jobs. A good professional will always accept help if it is available to do a better job IMO

Then I'm sure all the pro tilers that buy their gear from Bee n cue will be extatic to find this cant live without product


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[Grace'sDad]

I'd have a go!

No way can they make up for an uneven floor or poor prep' though.
I would imagine (if they work like they seem to claim) that with straight-edge tiles i.e. polished porcelain, they may make a "good job" that bit more perfect.

I like the concept, but would have to try it to see.

[teebum]

Have now ordered some Tuscan levelling system gear to compare.

[teebum]

Where did you get them and were they any good?

Emailed them in this country.

[pjtiler]

dont they try and sell some ****e

[James Spelrem]

lash system is excelent for 18*18 and up not cost effective for any thing under really good product

[James Spelrem]

If your good at what you do why are you repairing

[toffo]

one more gimmick for the back of the toobox.

[doug boardley]

am I missing a link or something? where do I view this las system

[Dave]

am I missing a link or something? where do I view this las system

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[Dave]

GOOD TILERS dont need it.. and a nice flat floor helps with that system.....

[doug boardley]

cheers Dave got it now, gimmicky gadgets, messy, bet the snapped off bits do show through grout, when you kick spacer wedges out how many times do you chip the glaze/tile surface? more times than was shown on video I bet!

[jocky102]

there is a better leveling gimic BUT it costs a fortune, well over priced but you can walk on the tiles while the adhesive is wet, its TUSCAN LEVELING SYSTEM, can watch it being used in utube

[jocky102]

what was the tuscan leveling like teebum???

[James Spelrem]

Dave in all fairness I have installed tile for twenty years and by far this has been the most bullet proof system I have used yet. I just installed 24*24 tile on gypcrete 3500sq' in a new bank in sylvan lake the pour was bad. where it would have taken me 2 weeks to level and lay.7 days start to finish on the angle AND I DARE YOU TO FIND A FLATTER LOOKING FOOR. The system is exspensive you have to buy bulk. no the lash clips do not show trough they break at the base.P.S how do I show picture love to showyou a custom water fall.

[Dave]

James...you can add pics by the manage attachemnts in the reply post section or upload to an album in your profile...

getting back to the qep lash..

you say your floor was a bad pour....how did qep get over the bad substrate when all it does is pull the tile surfaces flush ...so what about the adhesive bed...?...how did you cope with that..hollow spots etc etc..?

[James Spelrem]

the minimum notched trowel you can use is a 1/2 by1/2 by 1/2 with the clip when pulled tight it will flaten out to a 1/8" as with any tile install you still have to ensure there is enough moator in the voids large format tile you still need to pock the style of install has not changed it just makes it a lot quicker and eaiser and thank you I will send some pics.

[Dave]

Forgot to add james.. photo's need sizing to around 600x 450....

[mags]

First truly simple marble, slate, granite tile leveling system, virtually eliminates lippage,

the video .. It doesnt say lippage free its says VIRTUALLY lippage free and when they instal the tiles they don't float them leaving the trowel spaces underneath


and check out the price for it and the tools http://www.tuscanlevelling.co.uk/shop.html

[BTB]

Just don't see how these can possible work on a bowed tile?

Used some 600x300 recently that had a 2mm bow in and involved lots of humouring.

Surely these things can't straighten a tile

[Dave]

First truly simple marble, slate, granite tile leveling system, virtually eliminates lippage,

the video .. It doesnt say lippage free its says VIRTUALLY lippage free and when they instal the tiles they don't float them leaving the trowel spaces underneath


and check out the price for it and the tools For the diy tiler and professional tilers alike the Tuscan Levelling System is the first truly simple marble, slate and granite tile levelling tool

Thats the tuscan levelling system and not QEP..

[James Spelrem]

I own both and use both tuskan is a wonderful system with optimal situations the one downfall of tuskan is the bottom pad has 4 bumps that raise the tile off the pad not very strong still need a very flat surface to use.
lash has a u clip allows for a more uneven floor downfall of of lash is it is only good to a certain thicknesss of tile. as for bowed tile it will pull a curve out if you stagger your field . I can show you lots of pics using both systems but when trying to load pics it says i need a secity tag.P.S lots of trades men have scoffed both systems saying you dont need them and your right you dont i have laid large format for years without them but never as fast as i can with them by the way just bought the MK 112 water saw It IS SWEET.

[lukenewham]

tuscan is better

[waterfd]

Just checked the prices for Tuscan Levelling system. In UK it would cost just under £700 for 1000 straps, 250 caps and the manual setting tool. In the USA on Contractors direct the same setup would cost $648 which at todays rate is £399. Rip off Britain or what