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    am pricing a kitchen floor in a first floor flatthat is 10m2, the base is solid concrete (have been advised at least 6 inchs) do i need to use ply?

    the floor is very flat and level

    on this matter has anyone use DITRA matting??

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    I would be tempted to use the ditra sound proofing under the tiles, The tiled floor could be noisy for the resident below. Have heard where some landlords would not allow tiling and laminate flooring in the flats because of the noise
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    Quote Originally Posted by r&k View Post
    am pricing a kitchen floor in a first floor flat that is 10m2, the base is solid concrete (have been advised at least 6 inches) do i need to use ply?
    the floor is very flat and level
    This is our product specifically made for soundproofing....Gaz
    BAL Acousti-bond
    A specially formulated ceramic floor tile adhesive designed to improve to sound reduction properties of a tiled floor. If used in conjunction with approved matting systems* it will achieve the performance requirements of Part E of the Building Regulations 2000 – Resistance to the Passage of Sound. BS EN 12004 C1FS2 Adhesive.

    . Rapid setting, highly flexibleSound , reduction properties For details of approved mats please contact the BAL Technical Advisory Service on: 01782 591120.

    Coverage: Based on: Solid Bed Tipped Trowel 3.0kg/m2 Bed Thickness : 3 -6mm Open Time: 20 mins Setting Time: 5 hours Packaging: 7.5kg Bags Temperature Resistance: -30°C to 60°C Pot Life: 45 minutes

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    Thats a new one on me Gaz
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    If its a new screed and you want some sound proofing then Durabase SW is your product.

    The DURABASE SW „silent walk“ comprises mats just 2.8 mm thick, made of compressed synthetic fiber and possessing very favorable sound and thermal insulation characteristics. These mats decouple floor tiling from its foundation, lower the level of reflected sound by as much as 20 dB and achieve reductions in the transmission of footfall sound comparable with the performance of tile insulating slabs up to 9 mm thick.
    They also insulate tiles to a great degree against cold substrates
    Use it with Flexible adhesive or BAL Acousti-bond

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    This is the matting we recommend for it, but it is a specific type, call technical 01782-591120 for exact product code.....Gaz
    Regupol is a sound insulation material used for underfloor impact sound reduction. It is made from recycled rubber and cork with a polyurethane binder, and is suitable for use under most floor finishes, as well as between structural floor elements.
    Regupol is an excellent use of recycled rubber. It is supplied in rolls of 3mm and 5mm thicknesses and is easy to install. It is temperature resistant from - 40 °C up to +110°C.
    Regupol can be used to reduce noise on stairs (5mm recommended) and impact sound from hard floor finishes. It can be installed in strips on top of joists, or in rolls between floor elements to minimise the transmission of impact noise from above to below. It can also be used as a carpet underlay

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazTech View Post
    This is the matting we recommend for it, but it is a specific type, call technical 01782-591120 for exact product code.....Gaz
    Regupol is a sound insulation material used for underfloor impact sound reduction. It is made from recycled rubber and cork with a polyurethane binder, and is suitable for use under most floor finishes, as well as between structural floor elements.
    Regupol is an excellent use of recycled rubber. It is supplied in rolls of 3mm and 5mm thicknesses and is easy to install. It is temperature resistant from - 40 °C up to +110°C.
    Regupol can be used to reduce noise on stairs (5mm recommended) and impact sound from hard floor finishes. It can be installed in strips on top of joists, or in rolls between floor elements to minimise the transmission of impact noise from above to below. It can also be used as a carpet underlay

    Your talking about Regupol 4515 the difference is that Durabase SW uncoulpes because of its structure where Regupol doesnt I believ. The sound insulation factor is vertually the same only 1db in it





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