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[GazTech]

I think you have what you have payed for. Quotes from separate fixers would have been more appropriate. If I request any trade to work for me I don't expect them to be available at the drop of a hat. I voted, pay him and move on with the experience. I'm sure your good self could attempt to rectify the mistakes and enjoy doing it....Gaz

[Fekin]

Quite an interesting thread, but no doubt for the tiler and very embarrassing one too.

No matter what the tiler quoted for the job, has no bearing on this matter really as he was obviously happy with the agreed amount, and I fully agree with the price reduction regarding materials too.

If I had any work done in my home, and I had a genuine reason for complaint regarding quality, then I wouldn't be inclined to pay full costs without the problem being fixed at no extra charge.

Good luck with it.

[Sir Ramic]

So the tiler saw the job, he agreed the price. Thats up to him, he must have been happy at that point.
I am glad we have seen the other side of the story.
Yes i see some of the cuts are uneven under the cornice and could or have been rectified.
My main concern is how he got so far out of level in the 1st place? I have to say it was down to the initial setting out or lack of it.
Purely on that i will vote you were right and still are right to retain money.
I hate seeing tilers ripped off and i do feel sorry for the tiler but whether the quote was £400 or £4000 the tiling was out of level.
As for the tiler rushing the job ...FFS how long did it take him? Sounds to me a case of inexperience.
Just my opinion.

[J4CK THE RIPPER]

Originally Posted by Sir Ramic

So the tiler saw the job, he agreed the price. Thats up to him, he must have been happy at that point.
I am glad we have seen the other side of the story.
Yes i see some of the cuts are uneven under the cornice and could or have been rectified.
My main concern is how he got so far out of level in the 1st place? I have to say it was down to the initial setting out or lack of it.
Purely on that i will vote you were right and still are right to retain money.
I hate seeing tilers ripped off and i do feel sorry for the tiler but whether the quote was £400 or £4000 the tiling was out of level.
As for the tiler rushing the job ...FFS how long did it take him? Sounds to me a case of inexperience.
Just my opinion.

Sir ramic when you have a very large room to tile and your starting of on one wall and moving round the room how do you get your grout lines to meet bang on level when the tiles meet on the final wall? I find it very hard exspecially on large rooms. Do you use a laser level?

[Fekin]

Measure and draw a datum line all the way around the room and stick to it.

[hillhead]

thats one rough piece of tiling,the tiling rates are lower over here in N.Ireland but the quality is a hell of a lot higher than that.
I'd have him sort it all out for the money or just give it to someone else.
No tiler likes sorting another tilers mess!

[Sir Ramic]

You dont need a laser level at all but they are handy.
Just use a normal level and draw a line all around the room. If when you get to joing up you are out of level then its only a pencil line you need to rub out and try again. Get into the habit of using a sharp pencil and rotating the level for each line you draw.

[GazTech]

Originally Posted by J4CK THE RIPPER

Sir ramic when you have a very large room to tile and your starting of on one wall and moving round the room how do you get your grout lines to meet bang on level when the tiles meet on the final wall? I find it very hard exspecially on large rooms. Do you use a laser level?

Use lazer levels or water levels. Any discrepancy lose over doorway or over one last wall....Gaz

[J4CK THE RIPPER]

Originally Posted by Sir Ramic

You dont need a laser level at all but they are handy.
Just use a normal level and draw a line all around the room. If when you get to joing up you are out of level then its only a pencil line you need to rub out and try again. Get into the habit of using a sharp pencil and rotating the level for each line you draw.

Once you have found your datum do you use battons when starting to tile your first row? And when you have finished and start to tile in your very bottom row what do you use to hold them up?

If you know what i mean

[LM Ceramics]

project damager

when i saw your name on the post i think i was ready for a slanging match with you as im sure other tilers on here were with the way you treated this tiler but i WAS WRONG there is always to sides to every story and i was a little biased with the tiler and i thought you was just another fussy no it all customer. but having seen the pictures im going to vote keep your money i think there is no way that can be put right i dont know how he got that out of level and aswell with the trim sticking out the cuts to the coving i agree could have been cut closer but that was being a bit picky before i looked at pic 10 i didnt see alot wrong with the tiling ( it took me a while to notcie the trim on the pic) because the lines dont meet up then you can only say a poor tiling job i think that the price that he quoted had nothin to do with it and maybe he just isnt capable some people just cant tile properley and he is one of them lack of experience

From a retailer's pov,if you were a customer who had lifted a card from my shop and were left with a job like that,and came and complained to me,then I certainly wouldn't promote the guy again.....So,yes,you were right to withold money....

[Sir Ramic]

Originally Posted by J4CK THE RIPPER

Once you have found your datum do you use battons when starting to tile your first row? And when you have finished and start to tile in your very bottom row what do you use to hold them up?

If you know what i mean

Try Rubi wedges