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Old 26-08-2007   #25
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How many of you out there have made a genuine living out of becoming a self employed tiler after doing a 2 or 3 week course?.

Money isn’t all for me as I am looking to leave a very well paid profession, so the change is more important. Just need to know I can get enough work to feed myself ;-)

I am hoping it would take a year or maybe less to really get things moving.

On the subject of charging and rates etc, does a tiling course cover this in detail?

I am looking at going to Swindon for my training.

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I went on the NETT course and can honesstly say Darren says it how it is,no buls**t.He tells you what its possible to make but tells you bluntly that its down to you how much you make.
I lost over £30,000 in my last venture which I worked 6 days a week in for 3 years.I put the work into it but it just didn't work out.I'm not moping about it,within a week of my shop closing I was on the course and learning a new trade and buying all the tools I needed with the money I still had left.That was 4 months ago,I was only getting the odd job at first earning roughly £200 a week on average but now I have regular work and earn about £700 a week for 3 or 4 days work.I can guarentee within 2 more months I'll be earning at least a grand a week because I won't be worrying about taking days off to look after my son on school holidays and I'll be alot quicker hopefully(I'm a slow bas***d at the moment,make sure the works good first,speed will soon come).
I personally think I'm a bit cheap with my quotes so that'll soon stop.I have quite a good business brain so how I see me progressing is in another 6 months I'll be quicker,my prices will be going up to a good rate instead of a reasonable one,I'll be taking on an apprentice to help with all the things that slow me down plus after a while once he's capable I'll be sending him out on his own jobs(for me) and we'll each have an apprentice.
I want in 5 years time to be finding the work for a bunch of good tilers that'll work for me.I think you have to set yourself goals to aim at and once you've achieved a certain goal you raise the bar and go for a bigger goal.
I want a flash car and a big house and believe you me I'll bloody get them.

Dont go thinking I'm a cocky young git with no respect,I'm just hard working and very driven
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I went on the NETT course and can honesstly say Darren says it how it is,no buls**t.He tells you what its possible to make but tells you bluntly that its down to you how much you make.
I lost over £30,000 in my last venture which I worked 6 days a week in for 3 years.I put the work into it but it just didn't work out.I'm not moping about it,within a week of my shop closing I was on the course and learning a new trade and buying all the tools I needed with the money I still had left.That was 4 months ago,I was only getting the odd job at first earning roughly £200 a week on average but now I have regular work and earn about £700 a week for 3 or 4 days work.I can guarentee within 2 more months I'll be earning at least a grand a week because I won't be worrying about taking days off to look after my son on school holidays and I'll be alot quicker hopefully(I'm a slow bas***d at the moment,make sure the works good first,speed will soon come).
I personally think I'm a bit cheap with my quotes so that'll soon stop.I have quite a good business brain so how I see me progressing is in another 6 months I'll be quicker,my prices will be going up to a good rate instead of a reasonable one,I'll be taking on an apprentice to help with all the things that slow me down plus after a while once he's capable I'll be sending him out on his own jobs(for me) and we'll each have an apprentice.
I want in 5 years time to be finding the work for a bunch of good tilers that'll work for me.I think you have to set yourself goals to aim at and once you've achieved a certain goal you raise the bar and go for a bigger goal.
I want a flash car and a big house and believe you me I'll bloody get them.

Dont go thinking I'm a cocky young git with no respect,I'm just hard working and very driven
Exactly what I was talking about in my previous post. Go for it, and good luck.

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I have a few questions I'm hoping can be answered. (considering a course soon.) thanks in advance

1) How important are getting NVQ's and a CSCS card? I have read about these but am unsure how important they really are.

2) Is it easy to get a grant or would it be better to save up for my course etc. (approx £1000 for course and tools)

3) I hear a lot of people only want time served tilers is there any truth in this? I've read all the positive feedback on the NETT course and it just baffles me that you can get taught everything in 5 days when theres folk out there that need to do it for 5 years before they are qualified.

Again, thanks in advance.
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nvq,s and cscs cards are what you will need if you intend to do site work or similar....

4/5 days wont teach you everything there is to know but it will teach you the basics and the rest will come with experiance...and this forum is here to help aswell....dave...
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cheers dh, Just trying to get to know everything before I book my course. Time to save up me thins. should have enough cash by January so will more than likely book with NETT then. thanks...
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What a great thread, and honest answers. I have been looking at this site for ages as tiling is my next business move, after researching for the last few months. I haven't even been on a course yet ( I can't tile), so wasn't going to post until I had started trading, but couldn't resist throwing my tuppence worth in to this thread. I built a conservatory business from scratch and sold it. Then did the same with a chain of carpet shops ( although I had converted them to laminate flooring when I sold, (caught the start of that trend and rode it!). Then built a fitted kitchen company in six years to four showrooms, a warehouse and a turnover of £4million a year, before selling out. I then had a tyre company and lost £100,000 when it failed......whoops! (can't win them all.....philosophical about it.....but ouch it really hurt lol). Now for tiling......

I have to learn the trade and practise it for a while, because that's how I do things, but my goal is to have tilers working for me and eventually to open tiling showrooms. Maybe I will do it and maybe not.....but to make this post relevant to this thread.....IF YOU DON'T AT LEAST TRY, YOU WILL MOST CERTAINLY NOT SUCCEED! So anyone trying to achieve their goals should be encouraged and applauded, and I think that this is what happens on this site, from what I have seen, ( although nothing wrong with bringing people down to earth with a reality check sometimes, which also happens on here lol).

I have to agree with the comments about success having more to do with marketing and personality. When I opened the first kitchen showroom, it was in a small village, with 3 other companies already trading, and all established. Six years later we had outgrown them ALL. It was all about service, and asking the customers what they wanted, then delivering.....consistently. In any business some will succeed and some will not......I don't see tiling as being any different.

So good luck to anyone trying to make it......and to those that don't......try again.

Can't believe I just typed all that.......I need to go and lie down now in a dark room somewhere.......with my headache!

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thanks for that jimmy...good luck in your next adventure.....dave..
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What a great thread, and honest answers. I have been looking at this site for ages as tiling is my next business move, after researching for the last few months. I haven't even been on a course yet ( I can't tile), so wasn't going to post until I had started trading, but couldn't resist throwing my tuppence worth in to this thread. I built a conservatory business from scratch and sold it. Then did the same with a chain of carpet shops ( although I had converted them to laminate flooring when I sold, (caught the start of that trend and rode it!). Then built a fitted kitchen company in six years to four showrooms, a warehouse and a turnover of £4million a year, before selling out. I then had a tyre company and lost £100,000 when it failed......whoops! (can't win them all.....philosophical about it.....but ouch it really hurt lol). Now for tiling......

I have to learn the trade and practise it for a while, because that's how I do things, but my goal is to have tilers working for me and eventually to open tiling showrooms. Maybe I will do it and maybe not.....but to make this post relevant to this thread.....IF YOU DON'T AT LEAST TRY, YOU WILL MOST CERTAINLY NOT SUCCEED! So anyone trying to achieve their goals should be encouraged and applauded, and I think that this is what happens on this site, from what I have seen, ( although nothing wrong with bringing people down to earth with a reality check sometimes, which also happens on here lol).

I have to agree with the comments about success having more to do with marketing and personality. When I opened the first kitchen showroom, it was in a small village, with 3 other companies already trading, and all established. Six years later we had outgrown them ALL. It was all about service, and asking the customers what they wanted, then delivering.....consistently. In any business some will succeed and some will not......I don't see tiling as being any different.

So good luck to anyone trying to make it......and to those that don't......try again.

Can't believe I just typed all that.......I need to go and lie down now in a dark room somewhere.......with my headache!

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