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legfan2 · 17-05-2007

Hi all, im thinking about doing a course and have been looking into several. Can anyone tell me which of the 37 courses actually teach setting out to British standards which i understand is the correct way to set out, also i have heard that some courses don't allow you to use adhesive you just dry lay the tiles! having tried some diy tiling i found the application of adhesive the hardest bit and if im shelling out my hard earned cash i want to be taught the correct methods in setting out, applying adhesive etc. Thank you for any advise, John.

tony TLC · 17-05-2007

hi john and welcome cant help with courses but if you need any other help please feel free to ask away

**brian c** · 17-05-2007

welcome John ,click on to TILING COURSES at the top of this page,this will help you choose a course.

**Varley** · 17-05-2007

Hello m8, welcome to the forums, there is plenty of info on here about various tiling courses around the UK as brain c has said, just follow the link. Never heard of a tiling course that doesn't actually teach the application of the tiles though, thats a new one lol

legfan2 · 18-05-2007

Thanks guys, i'll do a bit of research and hopefully find a suitable course.

**GazTech** · 18-05-2007

Welcome to the forum John youv'e come to the right place.Don't be sfraid to ask any question as trivial as it may seem,there are a lot of experienced and learned people who rugularly participate Good luck

**Dan** · 18-05-2007

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Originally Posted by legfan2

Hi all, im thinking about doing a course and have been looking into several. Can anyone tell me which of the 37 courses actually teach setting out to British standards which i understand is the correct way to set out, also i have heard that some courses don't allow you to use adhesive you just dry lay the tiles! having tried some diy tiling i found the application of adhesive the hardest bit and if im shelling out my hard earned cash i want to be taught the correct methods in setting out, applying adhesive etc. Thank you for any advise, John.

All courses should set out according to British Standards but these days you want a tiling course that can help you get your NVQ in some way. As you will need a Tiling NVQ Level 2 at the least before you can work for domestic and commercial customers soon.

Many of the training centres et out to British Standards but it's not just the done thing now. You really need to speak to a couple of training centres and ask them how they help get your NVQ.

If they give you some big story about how it's not required, don't pay them for training.
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arcadia · 24-06-2007

All courses should set out according to British Standards but these days you want a tiling course that can help you get your NVQ in some way. As you will need a Tiling NVQ Level 2 at the least before you can work for domestic and commercial customers soon.

Is that correct Dan..? I have just done a PTS 4 week course that cost me £1700. If what you are saying is correct..? I now have to shed out heaps more to go and do a NVQ course.!! I am worried now..!! ..Kev..

BrhTiling · 25-06-2007

I don't agree, I don't think an NVQ2 is required to work on domestic jobs, I think it would come in very useful as a piece of paper to say you can do what you do, but I don't think you would actually need it just yet.

I intend to do my NVQ asap, but from what I have learnt most of it is just health and safety anyway... IE: common sense!

If you want to do site work then you are going to need your NVQ and a CSCS, but personally I am hoping to do my CSCS through the construction college when I do my 6129 plumbing.

An NVQ 2 is

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craft level, equivalent to GCSE at grade C or above. Some of the activities are complicated or non-routine, and there is some individual responsibility involved.

GCSE's aren't worth the paper they are printed on and NVQ's from what I understand are even easier to obtain... so I wouldn't get over excited...

I skipped most of my education from 14yrs old, but I still managed to pass a maths GCSE desipte not turning up for the final exam test... (the work was split into 2 tests and course work assesement).... I think that tells you all you need to know really, how can you obtain an GCSE / NVQ equivalent when nearly a third of work is missing!! ??

**Scottish Mark** · 25-06-2007

welcome to the forum john

**Yorkshire Tiling Academy** · 02-07-2007

As former tilers rather than born tutors we are aware that currently for domestic and commercial markets there is little need for paper justification of talent,physical evidence
is more in demand.However , even we can see the industry is changing and in the coming
year we will have to stop struggling and conform by easing down the revs and running some form of NVQ directed course.We know we are doing the content now but not in a
form that would adhere to CITB regs on length of course . I take Dans comment of don't
pay any centre that says you don't need an NVQ on the chin as a relevant comment for the future.The fact remains that there are multitudes of non NVQ tilers out there who have learned through experience most likely outnumbering the college taught .In five years from now the ratio will be reversed I expect. I'm off to get accredited.

P.S.We do push tools,but I've never knowingly sold a grout smoother or tungsten hand saw .All students get to play with all the different tools so in the end they know what's right for them.God forbid they turn up with a starter kit consisting of a manual cutter ,
pair of nips and snap you own spacers .

formula one · 02-07-2007

welcome to the forum john