protilers

6mm and 8mm a must have if you are going to fit soapholders etc.

i find 16mm (personally) to tight for 15mm copper pipe......i choose 18mm for that.
i also use my 27mm and my 38mm alot.....showerheads,recessed shower valves etc....

my advice is invest in quality....it will last.....for many many holes,
but because the are so expensive buy them as you need them....if your next job only requires the 18mm for rad pipes hanging out the wall....just by the 18mm,all these useful things will end up in your toolbox as you go along........
along with some other stange impulse buys.....like my ultrasonic measurer (useless on a good day).......

good luck!

tiler burden

totally agree with protiler :0)

i cant see how if your in this business how you can not buy the marcrist bits from buybrandtools.com (or whoever gives you the best deal??) you only have to work out the price and the amount of holes they cut in order to realise that marcrist are the best 'pound for pound solution'....i was looking at buying the starterkit with the 6mm bit, drill guide and water swivel. the 8mm the 19mm (agree with pt, the extra couple of mm either side is needed) the 36mm and the 44 mm, that lot comes to about £350 and you will get 600-700 on grade 5 porcelain.. how can any budget drill bit
compete with that , the answer is it cant...

gaz made a point about quality last week and paying for it and this is a prime example..

thanks to neil @ buybrand and protiler (ps protiler, your website is brilliant mate!!!) was it alot

ed

finally, to anyone readng this, dont get confused with the marcrist bits like i did, the 750 range do 60 holes per bit on porc and the 850 range are the big boys!!

Sir Ramic

Buybrandtools dont sell marcrist drill bits ( not that i can find anyway)

tiler burden

give neil a bell mate, he can get them ;0)

protilers

tiler burden.......sometimes things are worth paying for....like drill bits,lasers and websites.......
p.s thanks for the compliment!
850 range all the way......the others are just like common ptc's

tiler burden

your right there mate..you can also add lithium ion batteries for your cordless kit to the list aswell

bigdaz

looks like I'm going to have to shell out for some diamond bits then
its all pay out in the beginning. So does anyone use those arrow shaped tungston carbide bits?

tiler burden

dont worry baz

buy the 365dills and use them until the money comes in. just break the cost of the bits down on say 2 bathrooms, that way you'll at least break even..

its just in the long term the marcrist are the best thats all mate

ed

365drills

A set of diamond drills will cost £50 quid and this cost should always be passed to the customer as a consumable. Kits are designed for use on very hard porcelain but will actually cut hundreds of holes in ceramics.

Ceramics are so soft they do nothing to the drills.

As part of every bathroom install you will have to drill some holes as part of the installation of any bathroom to fit the tiles. IE radiators, waste pipe.



Fixtures are actually part of the tiling job so there is nothing you can do about that. But FITTINGS are a different matter.

In our kit the drills for FITTINGS come as part of the kit and so you could always leave the rest of the kit with the customer to use for themselves (especially if you add the cost of the drill kit to their invoice as a consumable)



A BFKMX Kit is supplied with drills for the fixures (the drills behind) like radiator pipes, waste pipes, shower heads.

But also supplied with drills for the fittings (the drills in front) like mirrors, loo roll, shower screens,



At the end of the day its between you and the customer to work out where the job starts and stops. Knowing that customers would like a loo roll attached etc means you can now mention it right at the start of every quote.

You can offer to leave the drills with them to finish themselves at a cheaper cost, or add more time to do all the snagging and fixing. Hell if they pay enough money you could hang the towels, run the water, light the candles and sing "oh happy day.." while they use take their first bath!

My mate Andy is charging £5k per bathroom for a complete job start to finish and that includes snagging, cleaning, priming the radiators, plumbing, lighting, waste etc etc

Richard Hazell
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