anyon got any ingenious ideas on what they use for cleaning out thin core cutters after drilling?

long thin allen key for me works

I usually get a nail and hammer it in from the top, very gently though!

screwdriver or a nail punch for me

I use a Bradawl that stays in my hole cutting kit.....


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pinpunch come in loadsa sizes

Small screwdriver for me.

Usually my van key no wonder i cant lock the doors lol

Little Philips screwdriver for me, although he doesn't know I use it.

Straight in with ma teeth lol..




I use a thin screw driver or what comes to hand that fits..

Originally Posted by Dave

Straight in with ma teeth lol..




I use a thin screw driver or what comes to hand that fits..

thats getting personal hehe

Originally Posted by suave

thats getting personal hehe

I wasn't gunna tell them that you live close to use ya teeeennnnny pee pee.

We often find that when we are on jobs drilling holes for customers (all part of the service...) that the fittings supplied often come with little
ALLEN KEYS


The PORSADRILL 6mm & 8mm cores come complete with core ejection slots


All sizes have the ejection slots so its a case of wiggle the allen key


Tease the core out of its socket


And its out.....



Larger cores have more holes to reach the slug

We are now delighted to be able to add a new tool to the 365-Drills PORSADRILL range to solve the issue of cleaning out the spoil or shards of tiles from the drilling of very hard porcelain tiles.


This core extractor has joined the stable at 365Drills.



The 90 degree hook allows easy access to the portholes and slots of all size diamond cores.



The price of £7.99 reflects the fact that the core ejector also comes complete with another useful item the cooling sponge.
But we have reduced the price to £4.99 for the set online.


We are certain that this toolpack at £4.99 (including VAT) will save lots of time and add real value to the £49.99 bathroom fitters kit.
In fact it can be used with ANY size kit that we sell.

Available online today. And we will add more pics and videos as we finish the product launch.

Was it by any chance this thread that inspired the tool?

Was it by any chance this thread that inspired the tool?

It was certainly a contributor to the idea... Yes.

It is a good idea but, can it do anything that a good old fashioned Allen key can't? Not trying to pee on your fire, just looking at it from a business point of view.

Nope the good old Allen Key remains the king of the core ejection



For those who have access to Allen keys then they are just as good. And to be honest most fixtures come with spare allen keys as standard.
I wanted to add this as an optional extra for people. Its like the sponge. Most people have access to a sponge.
But if you offer a dedicated solution then buyers do appreciate it.

So to be clear there is no significant benefit in this solution to using an Allen key. Its just that we offer a solution.

He's on the ball our Richard is. And as always it's the simple solutions that work, and convenience is king in this scenario.

I love thinking the forum was involved in inventing something so we're not allowing any more negative suggestions about it on the forum!

(Messing again, only messing!)

To be fair I love your drill bits so I'll be likely getting this and another sponge will be useful!

i like the idea of having a dedicated tool, youl always have it as its good for nothing else (you could use your allen keys for something else and not bring them. ) . and an extra spong would be handy.
when i get a set of these drills i know il get this aswell.


how about a small storage bog for them,. something along the lines of a festool mini systainer

Yes good comments. We did look in the past at the idea of storage something like this:



But it adds about a minimum of £5 to the cost of the product. Plus an extra £1.50 to the postage and packing costs due to extra weight.
Might not sound much but if (for example) we were to build say the Bathroom Fitters Kit [Currently £49.99] in this format then it would have to be
a price rise to minimum £59.99 for the kit.

OK so I agree it might be (might be) that we would still sell as many units - maybe even more! but I think its adding extra cost to the customer.
And our original aim five years ago was to be as low value as possible. - Please note that does not mean CHEAP !! (Cheap = Bad Quality).

I think what we tried to do in the begining was to strip down cost to the bone for ourselves and then pass on to the customer.

Incidently we did do an excercise like it for Corgi plumbing a year ago and once they factored in their own profit you can forget £49.99 and even £59.99
The kit came out at a whopping retail of £99.99 when they reflected back their expected profit margins. Thats double what the BFKMX is costing now!

It just seemed to much money for the set. So I shyed away from presenting the PORSADRILL range in ABS plastic presentation.

Oh final note. The ABS plastic cases DO work if there is significant VOLUME. Let me give you an example.... Topps Tiles have 320 branches and so if you can imagine each branch would sell 3 units per week. Then the weekly demand would be for 1000 units. Woooo so then all of a sudden you are shifting 50,000 cases per year and that brings down the price by a massive chunk. You have economy of scale. But reality check here is that we could never get anywhere near Topps so the days of supplying that sort of volume is pipe dream land for us. Hey but maybe we can dream!

Final word: Maybe we will offer an ABS case solution. But because we are very low volume expect the item to be loaded with drills and goodies which far exceed the Bathroom Fitters Kit. But the price will likely be £139 for the goodies. Probably 4x6mm 4x8mm 1x16mm 1x18mm 1x25mm 1x30mm 1x40mm 1x45mm. Selection of guide plates for all the sizes. A core ejector. A sponge. Its just a theoretical product.

Hope that makes sense but I am telling the story from a manufacturers point of view so I am baised as to how many units we could actually shift to get a return on our set up costs.

when you break it down its not really viable.
also 'low value' is a bad thing, value is based on personal experience of the product compare to the price. you mean low cost product. anyway im being picky.
thanks for taking my idea on board .

il put mine in a box of some kind as im anal about having tools protected and all together.

Originally Posted by 365drills

Yes good comments. We did look in the past at the idea of storage something like this:



But it adds about a minimum of £5 to the cost of the product. Plus an extra £1.50 to the postage and packing costs due to extra weight.
Might not sound much but if (for example) we were to build say the Bathroom Fitters Kit [Currently £49.99] in this format then it would have to be
a price rise to minimum £59.99 for the kit.

OK so I agree it might be (might be) that we would still sell as many units - maybe even more! but I think its adding extra cost to the customer.
And our original aim five years ago was to be as low value as possible. - Please note that does not mean CHEAP !! (Cheap = Bad Quality).

I think what we tried to do in the begining was to strip down cost to the bone for ourselves and then pass on to the customer.

Incidently we did do an excercise like it for Corgi plumbing a year ago and once they factored in their own profit you can forget £49.99 and even £59.99
The kit came out at a whopping retail of £99.99 when they reflected back their expected profit margins. Thats double what the BFKMX is costing now!

It just seemed to much money for the set. So I shyed away from presenting the PORSADRILL range in ABS plastic presentation.

Oh final note. The ABS plastic cases DO work if there is significant VOLUME. Let me give you an example.... Topps Tiles have 320 branches and so if you can imagine each branch would sell 3 units per week. Then the weekly demand would be for 1000 units. Woooo so then all of a sudden you are shifting 50,000 cases per year and that brings down the price by a massive chunk. You have economy of scale. But reality check here is that we could never get anywhere near Topps so the days of supplying that sort of volume is pipe dream land for us. Hey but maybe we can dream!

Final word: Maybe we will offer an ABS case solution. But because we are very low volume expect the item to be loaded with drills and goodies which far exceed the Bathroom Fitters Kit. But the price will likely be £139 for the goodies. Probably 4x6mm 4x8mm 1x16mm 1x18mm 1x25mm 1x30mm 1x40mm 1x45mm. Selection of guide plates for all the sizes. A core ejector. A sponge. Its just a theoretical product.

Hope that makes sense but I am telling the story from a manufacturers point of view so I am baised as to how many units we could actually shift to get a return on our set up costs.

Why won't Topps let you in Richard?

We have been trying them for years! Recently wrote to their MD Michael Jack but each year its the usual No !
They never give any great reason. I know Andy from Cornertape managed to get in but I think its a bit of a holy grail.
We continue to try.....

We should have a campaign where all our members write to Topps demanding they stock your drills.

Now that would be useful !!

Mind you... I did that once for PTS (Plumb Trade Supplies) And wrote to all 300 branch managers of that plumbers merchants to say that we existed.

And the buyer went absolutly MENTAL. He said we had gone the wrong way to get his attention....

Apparently he was inundated with calls and emails from local branch managers telling him it looked like a good idea and would be a useful tool box essential for their customers.

He rang me and was livid... Opppsss

the Allen key......did you know my great Grandad invented them....

If only your name was Andy Computers...

Its a shame there is nobody on here called Michael Jack who runs 320 branches of a tile retailer... Would make life easy!


Oh thats right.... Life is not meant to be easy!

Ahh well at least I have my non refundable holiday cruise booked and paid for on the Costa Concordia for June 2012.