Everlasting drills? (Part one....) - TilersForums.co.uk | Tile Forums

**365drills** · 06-05-2007

When we originally set out to develop low cost drilling for hard porcelain tiles we never realized there would be side effects.

The side effects were -
Perfect holes in ANY tile
Everlasting drills in soft ceramics

Seriously! - If you normally tile with the softer (standard) tiles then its now possible for you to own everlasting drills to produce perfect holes. And at £40 a set its really cheap. top quality work in the reach of all tilers for less than the cost of a curry!

We discovered everlasting perfect drilling by accident when we did exhibition work. At the time it was not possible for us to drill porcelain all day because of the material cost plus a yawn inducing two minutes per hole.

Angela shows off the drilling method

We needed a fast way to show off our drill plate technology and demo to fast moving crowds. So for exhibition work we switched over to cheap 7p standard white ceramic tiles.

What we saw amazed not only the tilers at the stand but us as well. We could reproduce absolutely perfect holes in tiles again and again without a chip or dig in the glaze. And an even bigger surprise was that one diamond crown ate through hundreds of tiles without so much as a hint of going blunt all weekend.

In hindsight its easy to see why. Diamonds are so accurate they only nibble at a small section of tile. In contrast spear point drills swathe away from the center like a paddle swiping at the glaze leading to chipping. Tile hack saws are a crude instrument leaving rough edges. Diamond is also so hard the chances of it wearing out on thin glaze is impossible.

But the reason it took so long for the penny to drop was because we were totally focused at the top end. We assumed there was no market for our product on soft tile because standard tools would always be used on ceramics. So we ignored probably 90% of the tile market.

Tilers (of every level) should know our kit bores perfect holes into any tile. Why do we need to share that message? Well the point is that anything that helps raise the quality of finish is going to help you in your work. Once you tile an area the results of your labour are on display for everyone to see for years at a time. Your trade is the one thing people see day in day out. You are the finishers of projects for people. Your customers will be viewing your work and making comments to their friends and family about what you do for them. And so anything that can raise or improve your tecnique is going to go down very very well.

Have a look below at what we mean. This is a £39.99 pack of seven drills.

And this is a tile which will will put a hot and cold feed and a waste pipe into.

For a sink you need a waste pipe and the hot and cold feeds. This is the 16mm drill for a 15mm pipe.

After a few seconds the glaze is broken and the diamonds are making short work of the soft back

The first hole is done. A quick wipe of the sponge to show you there is not a chip in sight ! This 15mm pipe is shown with good clearance. Copper pipe or plastic is fine too.

We started the waste pipe hole in the same way. You can see both holes are absolutley superb.

And this is the finished concept. There is a hot and cold 15mm feed. And a waste pipe. Not even a sign of damage.

Have a look at the back of this other tile. We drilled that one with a 30mm drill. None of the drills "POP" out the back. So the hole has strength because the drill has bored a tube rather than a cone. Lots of people rip out the back of tiles with angle grinders and then smash through from the front. Its a blunt instrument way of working. In contrast this tile is strong on the edge.

If you are a tiler you should try a set of these drills and see what a difference they make to your workmanship. Try them today?

Click here for more information

If you have a credit card and 5 spare minutes you can add a pack of these to your kit.

And if for any reason. And we mean any reason you do not like them we will refund your money in full including the postage costs. Thats right we are so sure that if you buy a set of these that you will love them that we are not afraid to give a full money back guarantee. We want you to try them totally risk free.

And of course you are also at liberty to come back to this posting and leave your honest comments.

Richard

**Dave** · 01-07-2007

i have bought and used this kit , SPOT ON.......

**365drills** · 06-07-2007

Validation from an Elite member, a professional tiler and from somebody who has over 500 posts under his belt.

Now that (to us) is worth its weight in gold.

Really appreciate the comments. All I can say is watch this space. 365Drills have some exciting plans between now and Christmas 2007....

23-07-2007

"SEVEN diamond drills in five carefully selected sizes. Everything needed for a kitchen, bathroom or commercial project is provided in this easy to use quality kit."

Are you sure? What about toilet waste pipe?

**365drills** · 23-07-2007

Large holes in tiles are covered by a number of topics. You can try here or if you want to review it on this forum then have a look under the articles section.

We have written a couple to cover the install of items such as fan lights, four inch waste pipes etc.

Topic covers using a hand drill. Or a bench drill

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**grumpygrouter** · 23-07-2007

I have to agree with Dave Howe, just received my "bathroom" set. C uts through ceramics like they are not there!! Bit difficult to get the "plug" out of the drill though, any ideas Richard?

**grumpygrouter** · 23-07-2007

Have to agree with Dave Howe. Just recieved my "bathroom" set, cuts through ceramics like it is not there. Bit difficult to remove the "plug" from the centre of the drill when you have finished though, expecially in the smaller drills. Any ideas Richard?

**Dave** · 23-07-2007

now that size i will have to get in need of a replacement for my carbide grit one.....

**365drills** · 24-07-2007

HOW TO EJECT CORES

Small cores have a slit on the side (even on the smallest 6mm) which you can get an Allen key into.

Push with the Allen key and the core should *pop*

Sometimes its a bit of a fiddle so wiggle the key and the core should pop.

On bigger crowns additional holes are drilled to help

You can use both holes to eject a core.

We do loads of trade shows and popping cores is an endless part of the working day.

Angela loves popping cores. Not sure why but she found it therapeutic.. Women huh ?

**grumpygrouter** · 24-07-2007

Thanks Richard, had deduced that allen bit myself but it is not a standard part of my tilers tool kit!! Will have to stick some in my tool box.

**365drills** · 17-08-2007

I might actually try and find a mfr of allen keys who can mass produce me a load of allen keys to include in the kits. My debate is really if the additional costs and time will add any extra benefit to the product.

At the moment I am under huge pressure in negotations with the big sheds to strip costs out and reduce costs.

They want everything for nothing!

Perhaps adding allen keys to the pack will go on the back burner.

**Dave** · 17-08-2007

Anything small enough to get into the slot at the side of hole cutter will work... try using small screw driver or a nail...etc......dave..