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Discuss New rotozip! in the Tile Drilling - Drill Tough Tiles like Porcelain at TilersForums; Hi all Just got a rotozip rz3. Anyone else got one that has any tips on using it? Cheers Tib...
          
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    Default New rotozip!

    Hi all

    Just got a rotozip rz3. Anyone else got one that has any tips on using it?

    Cheers

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    Hope it works out for you.

    If you ever get stuck for a special size (for example installing an LED light that requires absoulte accuracy) then we supply a full range of core drills. 37 Diamond Drill sizes from 6mm to 125mm


    Example of why accuracy is critical for installing some items



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    We also recommend using a wet sponge to control dust exposure, cool the drills and extend their lifespan.



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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    Hi

    Thanks for your reply. I'll keep it in mind as I intend to get rid of my rubi set which was nearly £500 and whilst cuts fine,I find it hard to control along with the stand and resevoir full of water.

    I guess the rotozip hasn't impressed too many as there's been no other replies!

    Thanks again

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    i've used the rotozip and actually liked it. I also have a set of those porsadrills which I put in my variable speed mains powered Bosch drill (it can go real slow) and like them too. Now the thing is this, the rotozip cost about a ton and the bits are quite expensive so for the same capability (for drilling holes) you can buy yourself a decent quality drill (which has loads of uses) and a set of porsadrills! Now the porsadrills probably wont last as long as the rotozip Bosch cores but the Porsadrill cores are cheap enough to amortise into a customers job and you can afford to have a set of common sizes! Now on the other side the Rotozip does have an excellent set of router type tools which used with the cheap looking handle attachment do a great job at routing things like board! ... so ... if your prime focus is drilling holes then Id go buy a nice drill (which has many more uses than the Rotozip) and bung some Porsadrill cores in it (especially if you can charge them every now and again to a job), but if you like the router capability then Id go for the Rotozip.
    just my opinions.
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    ... and to throw you another curve ball - i got a tip-off that a well known orange and black shed sells their own make copy of a rotozip at half price, same size chuck etc (to take Bosch bits) which i have yet to check out.
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    ... and the service from 365drills is excellent, i needed drills fast for a quick bathroom job, got them pretty much overnight by paying more on the postage, got a quick private email from them letting me know they were being packed (cos I pinged them to ask) so didnt have the worry of chasing them! that means a lot to me. 365drills understand customer service.
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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    ... for tips on using it - get a load of scap tiles. You have to start the hole by going in on a 20% angle then straightening up then wiggling it around as you go through. (unlike the porsadrill which is a straight through using the template to stop you skidding when you start). I made a couple of snail marks when first using the rotozip but them could do it without skidding. (thats why i say get a load of scrap tile to practice). Another advantage you will find with your Rotozip is you can use them dry (you cant with the Porsadrills) which may be an advantage. For sure your zip will last forever, my drills are either Makita or Bosch, not had one blow on me yet. My variable speed drill is 20 years old and i use it for drilling at low speed through tile etc, and i also put a wisk on it and mix addy and grout. Its only a Bosch green so i should have killed it by now - but it doesnt even smoke (made in Switzerland!) ... bet you cant kill your zip either.
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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    i got the rotozip in aug last year and 2 of them has broke first the one of the cuttin blades snapped and jamed in the chuck and the second time the button at the side jammed in they just swapped it no probs and a like it too maybe am just unlucky

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    i bought a 2nd hand rotozip off one of the lads on here,,i like it personally its been a good tool for profiling awkward cuts but thats all ive used it for so far...so far so good

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    Hi

    I never got rid of the rubi drill bits in the end but did get some 365 bits.

    They've been great so far, however, have been using them on travertine and slate, so we'll see how they fair next week on some genesis porcelain!

    The 65mm bit came with a guide which was brilliant for accurately cutting out 8 spots. They rubis were never accurate enough unless I made a jig out of backerboard or plasterboard.

    Top product!!

    Thanks for the advice.....

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    ive just thrown away my 2nd x core 6mm bit. came up against cermaiche keope full bodied porcelain's and lasted 10 cores. was not impressed as it does boldly state 100 holes. i have just bought myself the marcrist pg850 kit with 6mm bit. On the keope's it takes a very long time to get through, about 15 mins per hole and bottle and half of water. 5 bathrooms and they are all keope's so will see how it lasts.
    Dont mind the waiting if the bits last a while.

    I will continue to use the rotozip for ceramics only as it is worth its money for that alone and i will keep the marcrist for porcie's

    have tried to adjust the water setting on the marcrist as i want a drip rather than a soaking but im at its lowest and there is still too much water for the small 6mm bit. Marcrist state that the water coming out around the core should be the colour of the tile, a little bit thick as to help the abrasion, thus resulting in extended life of bit and quicker cores

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    ive just thrown away my 2nd (Rotozip) x core 6mm bit. came up against cermaiche keope full bodied porcelain's and lasted 10 cores. was not impressed as it does boldly state 100 holes.
    Have you tried the PORSASRILL 6mm diamond core drills?



    A pack of four 6mm-drills retails at £29.99 (dont forget as a Tilers Forum Member you get your discount on top of that )

    To use them we suggest holding a wet sponge on them.


    365Drills in action using the 6mm core drills.


    The PORSADRILL system removes a CORE from the tile.



    have tried to adjust the water setting on the marcrist as i want a drip rather than a soaking but im at its lowest and there is still too much water for the small 6mm bit.
    With the PORSASRILL 6mm kit a sponge soaked in water eliminates dust exposure for the installer and increases the lifespan of the holesaw by cooling the drilling operation which in turn leads to faster drilling. Our own sponge is ideal because it is the correct size and shape so it will not obstruct your drilling. It retains a superior amount of water. And having a dedicated drilling sponge saves the hassle of using your tile grouting sponge and contaminating it with grit, dirt and diamonds. A great aid at a reasonable price.


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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    I have both Rotozip and Porsadrill bits. For cutting clean holes for pipes the Porsadrill is first class. For cutting those nasty odd curves (e.g. if you cut around toilet and sink plinth bases) the Rotozip is the tool to use. Both tool bits require care to get the best out of them. I burnt out my Porsadrill 16mm bit cutting through a hard floor tile - my fault probably for drilling too fast! The Rotozip bits are prone to breakage if you dont take care to drill in a sawing motion. Either way - not following the manufacturers guides is expensive!

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    Nice bit of Feedback Andy. Send me by PM your address and we will send out a replacement 16mm as goodwill.

    It might not arrive quickly because we are blocked out this week at the Gadget Show in Birmingham NEC.

    I guess the message is really to read the instructions. With our kit the three golden rules are not to press too hard, to use some water and finally to drill slowly. That gets you the maximum lifespan per diamond core and holesaw. The main point is to keep the heat out of the core bit.


    All drilling is a wear and tare exercise but the steps you take to keep them cool will prolong the lifespan.
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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    richard my 115mm bit burnt out too

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    Ive had a rotozip for a few years now , its one of the first bosch ones

    handy bit of kit but bits pricey

    I agree with stan, if you want it for drilling holes use a drill it will last longer

    I use mine as a mini router and for freehand trimming work
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    Oh yes I can see from the packaging that its all black and scorched....





    You did use Evian pure spring bottled water I hope. Unless you use premium bottled water they wont work. Dont ever try tap water !!!



    Failing that a bottle of white wine... (Dont use red wine to cool them only white wine works)
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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    couldnt get my badboy code to work so didnt get the 115 mm bit

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    would homemade rhubarb wine circa 04 do the job richard

    im asking as everyone refuses to drink it

    it tastes allright, nice and smooth with a hint of rhubarb but it has a funny effect on their speech and legs

    would this be a suitable lubricant
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    might staint the tile mike

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    couldnt get my badboy code to work so didnt get the 115 mm bit
    Thats because the discount code is not Badboy..... ITS BIGBOY !!!!

    If you use Bigboy as a discount code (and providing you have a bathroom fitters in the basket) then there is an automatic half price deal on the 115mm dropping from £59.99 to £29.99

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    i only bought the bathroom fitters one cos the code wouldnt go through my mistake

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    Default Re: New rotozip!

    Rich, you forgot to stick a porsadrill logo on that guys hands and back of his head!
    The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it!!
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    Rich, you forgot to stick a porsadrill logo on that guys hands and back of his head!
    That ugly bugger....



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