Welcome to Tilers Forums Tiling Forum


The UK's Biggest Tiling Forum for DIY and Professional Tilers; find


  •  » Tile Advice for Bathroom Tiles, Kitchen Tiles, Wall Tiles, Floor Tiles
  •  » Customers can Find a Tiler, or Wall and Floor Tilers can Find Customers
  •  » Tiling Tools, Tile Adhesive, Tile Grout and other Tile Products
  •  » Advice and Discussion related to Tiling Courses and Tiling NVQ's
  •  » Professional Tilers can find Business Advice, Discounts, Trade Accounts

DIY and Professional Wall and Floor Tilers are Welcome


Advice from by Tilers, Manufacturers, Distributors and Tile Suppliers


REGISTER HERE FOR FREE


p.s.: Registered members will not see this ad

Results 1 to 7 of 7
Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By jmt tiling
Discuss substrate issues-advice needed pleeeeease in the Tile Adhesive, Grout and Substrate Preparation at TilersForums; hi all, looking for some advice. have an upstairs bathroom floor to tile approx. 4m x 2.5m. Existing floor is 20mm t&g chipboard fixed at 400mm centres with no noggins ...
          
  1. #1
    New TilersForums Contributor jmt tiling's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    cornwall
    Posts
    3
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Question substrate issues-advice needed pleeeeease

    hi all, looking for some advice. have an upstairs bathroom floor to tile approx. 4m x 2.5m. Existing floor is 20mm t&g chipboard fixed at 400mm centres with no noggins along theentire lenghts of joists. Not in any way ideal to start with! After screwing, there is still some deflection but not as much as i expected. the customer wants u.floor heating which i will lay on 10mm marmox, slc over top, then tiles as normal.
    however, this has left me with a quandry, do i:

    1 - overboard the chipboard with 12mm or 18mm ply, then marmox etc.
    2 - fix 20mm marmox straight to the chipboard, then ufh etc.
    3 - take up all the chipboard, noggin at 280mm centres, relay 18mm ply, then marmox etc.

    i know that ideally option 3 would be the way to go, however, there is so little deflection in the chipboard now that it is screwed, i wonder if overboarding with 12mm ply would stiffen the floor up to a satisfactory standard, and save me a lot of time and mess.

    any advice would be greatly appreciated, as i have just about pulled out what little hair i have left trying to decide! cheers, jim

  2. #2
    TilersForums Trusted Member

    Stewart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Dunfermline.
    Posts
    4,747
    Thanks
    437
    Thanked 1,203 Times in 965
    Posts

    Default Re: substrate issues-advice needed pleeeeease

    If it were my floor, I would go with option 3. Putting the marmox on the floor will not stiffen it in any way....
    "The early bird catches the worm.... but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese"

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to Stewart For This Useful Post:

    jmt tiling (10-11-2011)

  4. #3
    Bri
    Bri is online now
    BrianOrion Forum stalker


    Bri's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Grantham, Lincolnshire
    Posts
    5,729
    Thanks
    701
    Thanked 1,154 Times in 940
    Posts

    Default Re: substrate issues-advice needed pleeeeease

    To do the job properly you need to get rid of that deflection, as Stewart says, option 3. It may be more costly and time consuming but it'll cost less than having to do it twice and you've got a lot of moneys worth of materials going in to that floor. Do it right, do it once
    01476 400699
    07812 586737

    brian@bfjtiling.co.uk

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to Bri For This Useful Post:

    jmt tiling (10-11-2011)

  6. #4
    TilersForums Trusted Member


    Rich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Lymington Hants
    Posts
    3,230
    Thanks
    744
    Thanked 939 Times in 606
    Posts

    Default Re: substrate issues-advice needed pleeeeease

    I have to agree with the gents above Im afraid.
    AMEY TILING - Ceramic, porcelain, mosaic and natural stone tiling

    Richard Amey - 07817 904 897 Email - Ameytiling@Hotmail.co.uk

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to Rich For This Useful Post:

    jmt tiling (10-11-2011)

  8. #5
    TilersForums Contributor Aspect Tiling's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    54
    Thanks
    27
    Thanked 11 Times in 10
    Posts

    Default Re: substrate issues-advice needed pleeeeease

    I think you'll find that the majority on here will advise on option 3. We've all come across similar dilemmas and you'll sleep better at night knowing that you've done it properly, and with your reputation in tact.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to Aspect Tiling For This Useful Post:

    jmt tiling (10-11-2011)

  10. #6
    Administrator


    Dave's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    County Durham
    Posts
    54,471
    Thanks
    9,718
    Thanked 14,141 Times in 9,988
    Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: substrate issues-advice needed pleeeeease

    It just needs to be minimal deflection... if you can say it is that minimal ,then over boarding with min 10mm Marmox will suffice.. but only you can decide if it is minimal..

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to Dave For This Useful Post:

    jmt tiling (10-11-2011)

  12. #7
    New TilersForums Contributor jmt tiling's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    cornwall
    Posts
    3
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Re: substrate issues-advice needed pleeeeease

    thanks guys for all your advice - i think it will have to be option 3 - like you say, peace of mind and no problems later on. cheers, jim
    Dave likes this.

Similar Threads

  1. Issues with quality of tiling, help needed !!
    By true-blue in forum Tiling Forum
    Replies: 43
    Last Post: 25-10-2010, 04:41 AM
  2. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 24-08-2010, 05:57 AM
  3. Advice pls on substrate prep.
    By Blazin-saddles in forum Tile Adhesive, Grout and Substrate Preparation
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 27-05-2010, 05:31 PM
  4. need help pleeeeease!!!!!
    By lee221 in forum New Members Say Hi Here
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 08-03-2008, 06:44 PM

Visitors found this page by searching for:

tiling substrate upstairs bathroom

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Tilers Forums is the UK's largest wall and floor tiling forum. Advice is provided free of charge to all users. Tilers Forums does not take responsibility for any loss or damage caused due to following advice found on this forum. All wall and floor tiling should be carried out by a qualified wall and floor tiler. Views expressed on this forum are of the users and not Tilers Forums. Views expressed on this tiling forum are of the contributor only and not the forum as a whole. Not all views should be taken as fact but simply the opinion of the person posting. Readers are reminded to seek professional advice before undertaking any wall and floor tiling project.

Tilers Forums is a Trading Style of Untold Developments Ltd. Search Engine Optimisation, Web Development and Online Marketing for the UK.
DMCA.com
[Output: 90.74 Kb. compressed to 82.56 Kb. by saving 8.18 Kb. (9.02%)]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28