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    Hi,

    Some cowboy builder done a screed on a small conservatory and its like a roller coaster very bad job,
    its about 3sqms by 3sqms they done it just before the bad winter last year and has alot of cracks.
    My questions are will this crack anymore and would this be ok to lay slc on?

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    When you say screed, do you mean a sand and cement screeded floor or an overlay of SLC above a concrete floor ?
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    Default Re: small floor screed

    a concrete floor which cracked last winter, i want to lay the slc

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    Any pics ?
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    Default Re: small floor screed

    there ya goIMAG1058.jpgIMAG1059.jpgIMAG1060.jpg
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    Default Re: small floor screed

    You sure thats just concrete ? looks like SLC and someone hasnt primed the floor to me ?
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    Default Re: small floor screed

    will this be ok to level then?

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    When you tap it does it rattle or sound loose. Its not looking good to me, I cant understand anyone concreting up to Skirting boards ?
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    Default Re: small floor screed

    should i rip it up then level?

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    That would be my choice and then I would know its done right.
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    deal!! thanks for the advice mate much appreciated

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    defo looks like slc to me, the colour, texture, ripples and the cracks!

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    Looks like a bad self leveling..
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    Default Re: small floor screed

    As above looks like slc. rip up, prime and re do it. Laying on it would be asking for trouble in the future

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    Well i went to rip up the dodgy slc, and guess what an inch think of want look like sand and cement came up aswell,

    these nuggets who call themselves builders put this down instead on concrete

    its going to cost around 280 for the slc to build it up that high any ideas on building it up

    roughy about 30mm?

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    Marmox boards ??
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    Default Re: small floor screed

    Floor screed goes on top of concrete...
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    Default Re: small floor screed

    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    Floor screed goes on top of concrete...
    what do you mean mate?

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    Marmox boards ??
    how much would that cost for around 8sqms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shogun rua View Post
    how much would that cost for around 8sqms?
    Depends on the thickness but remember the cost will give you insulation as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Ramic View Post
    Marmox boards ??
    <br><br>how much would that cost for around 8sqms?

    30 mm mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by shogun rua View Post
    what do you mean mate?
    A 50mm floor screed is laid, or used to be until all the insulation came into regs, on top of the concrete floor..
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    A 50mm floor screed is laid, or used to be until all the insulation came into regs, on top of the concrete floor..
    well this was around 30mm of crumbling sand and cement poor women

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    ok thx ill phone them in the morning thx guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Ramic View Post
    When you tap it does it rattle or sound loose. Its not looking good to me, I cant understand anyone concreting up to Skirting boards ?
    outstanding advice

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    couple of short vids of there handy work




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    Thats really bad...
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    aye no wonder people find it hard to trust

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    Yep i'm with everyone, its an unprimed SLC floor, and needs to go! Make sure you buy a good leveller, not the mud they sell in builders merchants. Mapei renovation screed primed with Primer G takes some beating, Bal Multibase is good too, but can cost more.

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    Default Re: small floor screed

    was the builder/cowboy informed that the floor was going to be tiled ?? maybe 'not carpet tiles' should have been made clear.

    shouldn't an SLC not exceed 10mm to prevent cracking anyway ??

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