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    anyone recomend a good adhesive / grout for white porslain mosaics ? ive only got 3mtrs to do and as far as i no bal mosaic fix only comes in a 20kg bag tiles are going onto plastered wall kitchen splash back . thanks

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    Default Re: mosaic addy for porslain

    Try Mapei Ultramastic111 adhesive its a a premixed tub so best left overnight to cure before grouting. Make sure you have correct trowel as too thick adhesive will come through the grout gaps in the mosaic.

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    Default Re: mosaic addy for porslain

    thanks, ive got a 3mm trowel just didnt want to spend a fortune on adhesive as i quoted the customer on ceramics and she got porslain mosaics

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    Default Re: mosaic addy for porslain

    Quote Originally Posted by terry the tiler View Post
    thanks, ive got a 3mm trowel just didnt want to spend a fortune on adhesive as i quoted the customer on ceramics and she got porslain mosaics

    Then tell her its extra due to different products.
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    As above, why should fund the job
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    For porcelain mosaics where the choice is the BAL range which would you guys recommend:

    Rapidset flexible or Mosaic fix? (both are in 10Kg bags which is the size I need)

    25mmx50mmx10mm porcelain mosaic on 300mmx300mm sheets on plasterboard with skim that I applied to repair surface after tile removal.

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    i love mosaic fix,

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    Def Mosaic Fix for me. One of the best addy's I have used.
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    Default Re: mosaic addy for porslain

    Quote Originally Posted by jgw1 View Post
    For porcelain mosaics where the choice is the BAL range which would you guys recommend:

    Rapidset flexible or Mosaic fix? (both are in 10Kg bags which is the size I need)

    25mmx50mmx10mm porcelain mosaic on 300mmx300mm sheets on plasterboard with skim that I applied to repair surface after tile removal.
    Both not priced very well though are they..

    Any modified cement based adhesive will do the job.. and as above some dispersion adhesives are suitable as well.. but for me bagged only.

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    I was going tub but today you guys persuaded me to go powder.

    Topps powder is a burden on my wallet but they are convenient, close to where my tile shop is - and I am not trade. Not too bad as long as I can get a bag that is close to what I need. I love spf but ~£50 for a 20Kg bag and 3.5 sqm eek.

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    Default Re: mosaic addy for porcelain

    How much...ffs..

    Go to Tile giant and get Mapei..

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    I tried a bag of mapei for my kitchen and did not like it - it did not mix well (mixed by hand). Could not get the lumps out like I have with BAL. Wasn't sure if it was the product or a bad bag or the man

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    I sympathize with the Topps Tiles lament, and the prices are just shocking.... our nearest Tile Giant is over two hours away, and the local stone importers sell Mapei grout but no adhesive, what's all that about? I do like the Ultra adhesives, too, so if you can get that where you are, jgw1, go for that... much cheaper and very versatile, come in 5 kg bags, too
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    Essentially SW London, Kingston and Surbiton.

    I can order online but then with delivery it doesn't come down to much and I like to be able to check the manufacture date and know that it hasn't sat in a freezing depot overnight.

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    Crazy prices
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    I am sad that if I was trade Id pay half of that at a guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgw1 View Post
    I am sad that if I was trade Id pay half of that at a guess
    ohhh, noo, you wouldn't... trust me... Topps tiles trade prices are a sadder subject than you could possibly imagine.. if Mapei is not available try and find some Ultra adhesive, really...

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    try CTD. i can't understand why any body in there right mind would pay that sort of money for spf

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    Because when there are no other places about and people aren't experts on adhesives, it is just considered the norm, Deano? It's confusing enough to have all these useless tubbed adhesives and the b&q advice kicking about... don't blame the public...

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    Tend to agree with MG, the general public really don't know any better...

    They believe a snotty 19 year old in B&Q.
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    Default Re: mosaic addy for porcelain

    if you work it out you get roughly five m2 to a 20kg bag so that works out to more money per m2 than a lot of people pay for there tiles

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    Yes....it's just if it's not your usual field of work, how should you know? Since I have given up my practice I am amazed how many people who just know me as a mosaic artist ( presently with this flu still giving me jib) give me totally unqualified medical advice, the horrors that are kicking about as advice gleaned from health and women mags etc, well, it's just shocking - and let's face it, most publicly available advice is profit driven, both in natural and allopathic medicine. And I'm no expert on cars, if I go into some petrol station and the oil is so much, some mechanic may well wonder how anyone in their right mind would buy it at that price, but if it's there and it's for sale and it looks good enough....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosaic Girl View Post
    Yes....it's just if it's not your usual field of work, how should you know? Since I have given up my practice I am amazed how many people who just know me as a mosaic artist ( presently with this flu still giving me jib) give me totally unqualified medical advice, the horrors that are kicking about as advice gleaned from health and women mags etc, well, it's just shocking - and let's face it, most publicly available advice is profit driven, both in natural and allopathic medicine. And I'm no expert on cars, if I go into some petrol station and the oil is so much, some mechanic may well wonder how anyone in their right mind would buy it at that price, but if it's there and it's for sale and it looks good enough....
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    I used to use BAL many moons ago, stopped using them because of the prices, they just seem to refuse to budge or even offer a decent trade price. Its mad really, you would think they would do what they can to keep up with the likes of Mapei. Then I went to Weber and Ultra, Larson and then found the golden grail with Mapei. I think I have prob used every brand out there at least once.

    My point is that it doesnt have to be BAL or Mapei (although we all have our favs). Have a look around your local tiles/builders stores and see what you can get for a decent price, Ultra, Weber, Granfix, Ardex... They will all do a suitable adhesive
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