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Discuss Hardi backer love it, hate it, why? in the Tile Adhesive, Grout and Substrate Preparation at TilersForums; Do you like using hardi backer? yes/no give your reasons why you like it or dont here. What has prompted me to ask this question is! I have never been ...
          
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    Do you like using hardi backer? yes/no give your reasons why you like it or dont here.
    What has prompted me to ask this question is!

    I have never been a fond lover of this product as compared to alternative products it is heavier awkward to cut and because of these reasons I havent used it much.

    Well turned up on site and the customer has supplied everything including the hardi backer and theres a huge pile of the stuff!

    So ive been fitting the 12mm board to stud walls and cutting the board with the scribe as provided by scoring one side and then the other and finally snapping works but it takes too long and is a chore to do! then when you have shapes etc to cut out the scribe is no good for this!
    so i tried my jigsaw on the board. first was a wood blade got about halfway threw a board and it had burnt it out
    then i tried a tile blade this is soo slow
    so i resorted to my grinder and diamond wheel much quicker. dont know how long the blade will last though

    Drilling holes for l.e.d. lights etc first used my wood hole set 4 holes and bits are useless. resorted to my 365 diamond bits and they work a treat.

    then to screwing them to the studwork. well the screw wont pull in flush to the face of the board no matter how much effort or weight you put behind them
    so i decided to use my countersink on them! Guess what it ruined this too
    So in the end i used a masonry bit to countersink them this works a treat
    IMO this board is hard work and slower then say marmox or wedi to install.

    How do you find it using hardi?
    what tools do you use on it for different cutting drilling etc?
    Do you like it or hate it?

    What alternative backer boards do you use and why?
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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    I use it all the time for timber floors and i use my grinder to cut it..

    Love it..


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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    I like it but agree with all the comments, its not the easiest material to work with
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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    I use it all the time peckers there is no better alternative imo cut it with angle grinder but make sure you have a good mask on the dust off this stuff is not good

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    Only used it a couple of times, but both times it's been the only product for the job really. Don't know why one wouldn't love it.
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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    use it a lot love it no alternative

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    I have not used it, I have only used NMP and Aquapanel
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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    Ha ha! I love the stuff

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    Use it all the time, I use a stanley knife to score and snap - very easy! I also use an electric drill to drive the screws in flush with the surface, most cordless drills aren't man enough.
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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    I use an impact driver for the screws. Have tried various method of cutting but not using a grinder. I did have limited success with a reciprocating saw but only worked on the short side as the blade overheats on the long side and then blunts.

    I prefer it to aquapanel as that just as bad to cut and is way too brittle

    I havent voted as i like it for what it does but dont love it or hate it

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    For the price I think its the dogs danglies.
    Grinder to cut and always wear a mask.
    In a few years there is going to be an asbestos alert when this product is mistaken for the deadly foe!

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    why dont u use the proper cutter for the board ? it only been around for 30 odd years lol

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    for the smaller cuts use the 4 inch grinder.

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    Trev, I've used an electric shears cutter that goes through the hardi like a hot knife through butter. Very nice, and I don't remember the price (but worth it to avoid the dust).

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scottley View Post
    I use an impact driver for the screws. Have tried various method of cutting but not using a grinder. I did have limited success with a reciprocating saw but only worked on the short side as the blade overheats on the long side and then blunts.

    I prefer it to aquapanel as that just as bad to cut and is way too brittle

    I havent voted as i like it for what it does but dont love it or hate it
    Scott, the Hardibacker brand screws that they sell here are sweet. They cut right into the HBB and countersink easily. An impact driver helps too. Just two years ago I was saying "no way will I get an impact driver". Now we have four of them.

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    Sounds good, no dust with the cutter i linked either
    Could u throw up a link for the shears u talk of?
    might shop for a simular tool in Oz .

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    Trev, I've used an electric shears cutter that goes through the hardi like a hot knife through butter. Very nice, and I don't remember the price (but worth it to avoid the dust).
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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    I have not used it, I have only used NMP and Aquapanel

    Hi Mark ! where are you getting your nmp from mate ? i want to try it out on my next job

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    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    I have not used it, I have only used NMP and Aquapanel
    not voted there Mark

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    Hardibacker on floors is great, really solid but it is a pain to cut. on walls we use marmox but I'm nervous about the compression on floors so hardi it is. Aquapanel seems a bit DIY I dont like using stuff from B&Q, I'm using less Mapei now as it makes me look like a DIYer an dthe customer knows how much it costs!

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    jsut put h/b 500 on walls easy peezy decent impact spax screws

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    Default Re: Hardi backer love it, hate it, why?

    I use my diamond blade circular saw and dust mask

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalltiling View Post
    Hardibacker on floors is great, really solid but it is a pain to cut. on walls we use marmox but I'm nervous about the compression on floors so hardi it is. Aquapanel seems a bit DIY I dont like using stuff from B&Q, I'm using less Mapei now as it makes me look like a DIYer an dthe customer knows how much it costs!

    Less mapei?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavytrevy View Post
    Sounds good, no dust with the cutter i linked either
    Could u throw up a link for the shears u talk of?
    might shop for a simular tool in Oz .
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