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Discuss Uncoupling membrane in the Tile Adhesive, Grout and Substrate Preparation at TilersForums; I have a floor area approx. 30m to tile. Half is on exterior ply the other half on screed. Will I need to put down a uncoupling membrane over the ...
          
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    I have a floor area approx. 30m to tile. Half is on exterior ply the other half on screed. Will I need to put down a uncoupling membrane over the whole area before I tile. The tiles are ceramic .

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    Forgot to mention the floor will have underfloor heating

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    Default Re: Uncoupling membrane

    In principle, you do not require a decoupling membrane. You will just need to ensure that you have an expansion joint across the point where the two substrates meet.

    However, things to consider are:
    How stable is the ply floor? i.e. thickness, deflection etc..
    Are you putting insulation boards under the UFH? (I presume it is electric UFH)
    Do you intend to apply a floor smoothing compound over the UFH?
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    You will need a control joint between the screed and ply floor, what thickness of ply is fitted
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    Hi Jimbo, what thickness is the ply? decoupling also expansion joints to be considered Thickness of ply important, before we can advise

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    Triple response, same answer

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    Bet that is not a record though, knowing this forum

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    Same

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    Thanks for the quick response.It is 18mm ply and a wet piped system layed on insulation board. How can I disguise the expansion joint without it looking obvious

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    Default Re: Uncoupling membrane

    whilst it will do no harm I would not have thought uncoupling essential with ceramic but the joint is essential.
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    Default Re: Uncoupling membrane

    On domestic jobs, you can use what is called a Cold expansion joint.. this is basicly a joint of around 4mm to 6mm and silicone is used.. same colour as the grout to be used..

    Mapei do silicones to match all the grouts in the ultra colour range..

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    Thanks for your help Dave . I will take your advice

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    Dural will make expansion joints to order, and match them to your grout colour
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    Bet they cost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    On domestic jobs, you can use what is called a Cold expansion joint.. this is basicly a joint of around 4mm to 6mm and silicone is used.. same colour as the grout to be used..

    Mapei do silicones to match all the grouts in the ultra colour range..
    A viable alternative to metal expansion joints,but do not have as much longevity ! will inevitably need to be replaced !

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    Bet they cost
    No
    main guy used to work for Schluter....
    E.G...
    Dural uncoupling membrane £5.00 a metre plus VAT
    They will replicate ( near copy ) nearly any Schluter trim at a fraction of the cost.
    Ring em and see !
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    not always the best look for a domestic setting though Tina

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    A nice expansion joint in my opinion looks better than a bead of silicone and lasts longer in any setting,either domestic or commercial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire Tiling Services View Post
    A nice expansion joint in my opinion looks better than a bead of silicone and lasts longer in any setting,either domestic or commercial.
    very true Tina, does your friend do them in all the colours ?

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    will PM you reps number
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire Tiling Services View Post
    No
    main guy used to work for Schluter....
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    Dural uncoupling membrane £5.00 a metre plus VAT
    They will replicate ( near copy ) nearly any Schluter trim at a fraction of the cost.
    Ring em and see !

    I guess you are refering to Gerard, top man imo. They do every colour under the sun. A good exp joint can make a job, true pro finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Hobson View Post
    I guess you are refering to Gerard, top man imo. They do every colour under the sun. A good exp joint can make a job, true pro finish
    Thanks Phil

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