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Discuss help with tiling adhesives and grout pls! in the Tile Adhesive, Grout and Substrate Preparation at TilersForums; I know Mopei and Bal.. are probably the best products to use for tiling, however, they are very expensive. Can anyone tell me if Wickes wall and floor rapid set ...
          
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    I know Mopei and Bal.. are probably the best products to use for tiling, however, they are very expensive. Can anyone tell me if Wickes wall and floor rapid set adhesive powder ok to use? They are a lot cheaper, also, the customer reviews in the site seem very impressive; are they genuine?

    Also, I have already used them to tile my conservatory 2 months ago, so far, it looks real good and it was quite easy to use as well. Having said that I barely clean the floor with water.

    I have already bought 2 big bags of adhesives and grout for my kitchen floor, I am really tempted to use them. However, unlike the conservatory, the kitchen needed to be mopped with water frequently, will this be a problem?

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    Default Re: help with tiling adhesives and grout pls!

    sorry never used it , i would go for mapei , for peace of mind , im a firm believer in you get what you pay for, are the tiles ceramic or porcelain
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    Default Re: help with tiling adhesives and grout pls!

    So, the worry is that the tiles might come off when contact with water, am I right?

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    hi what size tile and whats the substrate

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    Default Re: help with tiling adhesives and grout pls!

    if tiles are fixed properly, with the right materials, no amount of mopping will cause the tiles to debond.

    if you have used Wickes own brand adhesives and grouts, and you're happy with them, I see no reason why you should change the brand now, however I am only a DIYer like yourself. The professionals use what they are comfortable with, and me being a non-pro, I use what I feel comfortable with. I have used both BAL and Mapei in the past, my preference is BAL as I felt I could mix it better, but the top brands are top because they are good quality.

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    no your not flooding the floor , only mopping , im just saying i would go for mapei, the chances are wicks adhesive might be fine, but i am aware of cases were there adhesive as failed . might be down to poor prep work , not mixed properly , but as i said earlier mapei for me
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    Default Re: help with tiling adhesives and grout pls!

    The tiling area is less than 9m2,
    4/5 of the floor is laid with some very old red quarry tiles and the rest is screed which is laid from last Sept. The tile I am going to use is 13"X13" ceramic tiles.

    Also, I have bought a big bucket of PVA from Wickes which I used to seal my conservatory floor before I tiled the floor. Can I do the same for my kitchen floor, even on the old quarry tile?

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    Default Re: help with tiling adhesives and grout pls!

    STOP!

    Do not use PVA anywhere. PVA has no place in modern tiling techniques. You need an acrylic primer.

    I assume you're intending to tile over the existing quarry tiles?

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    okay got the picture dont recomend the pva it has no place in tiling recomend using an acryilic primer i would recomend up grading your adh to a better brand that is recomended over tiles posabily a c2 standard take existing tiles are solid not drummie at all surface will need roughing up so adh can grab are existing tiles laid on concrete as well

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    pva is no good do not use as a primer .you will need to give the quarry tiles a good clean , with sugar soap .are the quarry tiles solid , is the screed solid ,any cracks from movement
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    yes! So, I assme I can get it from general dyi store, any specific brand or anyone will do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diybeginner88 View Post
    yes! So, I assme I can get it from general dyi store, any specific brand or anyone will do?

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    you can't get professional adhesives from DIY shops. contact your nearest Tile Giant store and then can help you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nybor62 View Post
    pva is no good do not use as a primer .you will need to give the quarry tiles a good clean , with sugar soap .are the quarry tiles solid , is the screed solid ,any cracks from movement
    The quarry tiles are very solid, so is the screed, only that it got holes in it as I walked on it before it is set properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlRacerRed View Post
    you can't get professional adhesives from DIY shops. contact your nearest Tile Giant store and then can help you.

    I got a toppiles nearby, will they stock the primer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diybeginner88 View Post
    I got a toppiles nearby, will they stock the primer?

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    Topps stock BAL adhesives grouts and primers
    Tile Giant stock Mapei adhesives grouts and primers

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    Default Re: help with tiling adhesives and grout pls!

    im not sure who makes the wickes products, someone on here may do and will advise

    mapei make buildfix which is supplied through B&Q

    theres a law in this country which prevents one manufacturer from getting a monopoloy, it works by limiting the market share. manufacturers get round this by supplying home brands for other oulets

    if its a good addy and your pleased with it, use it

    as for the site reviews, they weed out the ones they dont like claiming them to be inaccurate, offensive or misleading, they leave constructive criticism as its fair comment. these site reviews are a clever system as you are doing their market reserch for them and saving them a fortune, they can also identify problems with products and act quickly

    theres no place in tiling for pva and anyone who reccomends you use it is ill informed and that includes some suppliers and manufacturers
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay View Post
    okay got the picture dont recomend the pva it has no place in tiling recomend using an acryilic primer i would recomend up grading your adh to a better brand that is recomended over tiles posabily a c2 standard take existing tiles are solid not drummie at all surface will need roughing up so adh can grab are existing tiles laid on concrete as well
    I've just checked the site in Toppiles, they do primer for tiling, I'll get one.
    Yes, I think the existing quarry tiles are on concrete. Is there anything I need to do apart from cleaning the floor and seal it with a primer?
    Also, I think I'll get a different adhesives from Toppiles as well, so far I think I should be able to get a refund from Wickes; it's not worth the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikethetile View Post
    im not sure who makes the wickes products, someone on here may do and will advise

    mapei make buildfix which is supplied through B&Q

    theres a law in this country which prevents one manufacturer from getting a monopoloy, it works by limiting the market share. manufacturers get round this by supplying home brands for other oulets

    if its a good addy and your pleased with it, use it

    as for the site reviews, they weed out the ones they dont like claiming them to be inaccurate, offensive or misleading, they leave constructive criticism as its fair comment. these site reviews are a clever system as you are doing their market reserch for them and saving them a fortune, they can also identify problems with products and act quickly

    theres no place in tiling for pva and anyone who reccomends you use it is ill informed and that includes some suppliers and manufacturers

    If the reviews in the site are not made-up, there is a good chance the quality of Wickes tile adhesives is reasonable good. Actually, there is a very good comment from someone in the trade as well. I just have to get some decent primer in Toppiles, thanks.

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    I thought the wickes gear was a weber product but tend to find that sometimes the material can be down graded for cost reasons
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