I can hear you all groan in advance, but just looking at all sorts of adhesives grouts etc, and wondering, what is the difference between concrete filling mortars and grouts? Some of them sound really handy, some epoxies, fethering to 100mm thickness possible, high adhesion, waterproof, different colours and colouring powders available, etc etc,..so.... ??

When you say concrete filling mortars are you thinking of a sand/cement mix that might be used on a patio area?

Hang on I, try and find the main link again...

http://www.epoxyproducts.co.uk/concrete%20repair.html

Various products on there, I try and find the other one, too..

http://www.tecroc.co.uk/prod_repair_cem.html

different ones on here, too...

The quick setting high strength concrete has been around for years, used in a lot of factories etc where there is high foot traffic.
Only epoxies I have used are for wet areas and they were bal products, very good at what they are supposed to do.

Originally Posted by diamondtiling

The quick setting high strength concrete has been around for years, used in a lot of factories etc where there is high foot traffic.
Only epoxies I have used are for wet areas and they were bal products, very good at what they are supposed to do.

Is there something special about concrete, or would this stuff stick to glass metal stone porcelain rubber, ceramic, all sorts, too?? Not necessarily only the epoxies, but the acrylic ones just sound interesting... what I don't like about usual cement based grouts is that they haven't much adhesive quality as such, it seems a waste of opportunity somehow, expecially thinking of small mosaic pieces etc,... just thinking out loud really...

All those surfaces? I dont know, I will suggest that they might but I stand to be corrected.

I know, the rubber bit is maybe a bit over the top... just mildly exaggerated there, it just seems daft that I should add latex to grout or adhesive or have umpteen differenent adhesive and umpteen different grouts for different jobs, when just having one for the most taxing circumstances would save me space and money! Like Ed said not long ago, the whole adhesive market has gone a bit over the top, hasn't it.... anyhow, thanks for putting your thoughts into it...

different countries different products diff subs tend to agree reduce the the confusion i try to stick to one adh and one brand of grout (epoxy is making big movement into market tho) it costs more for decent adh but no need to change for walls or outside areas ect and you know the product and its limitations( have a bo peep at the laticrete spectre lock range mosaic girl might be your answer )

Originally Posted by jay

different countries different products diff subs tend to agree reduce the the confusion i try to stick to one adh and one brand of grout (epoxy is making big movement into market tho) it costs more for decent adh but no need to change for walls or outside areas ect and you know the product and its limitations( have a bo peep at the laticrete spectre lock range mosaic girl might be your answer )

Originally Posted by jay

different countries different products diff subs tend to agree reduce the the confusion i try to stick to one adh and one brand of grout (epoxy is making big movement into market tho) it costs more for decent adh but no need to change for walls or outside areas ect and you know the product and its limitations( have a bo peep at the laticrete spectre lock range mosaic girl might be your answer )

Yes, Jay, seems a good choice, I agree and sensible, too. But you know for now I'll dig my heels in ...I'm going back to Cairo this week for my mentor Saad's first great Exhibtion, in the Cairo Opera house no less and will bring back 10kg of the ready mixed pultipurpose epoxy resin type stuff (you can add water or cement or leave it as it is depending on use!!!) they use there, about 50p a kilo...wish I could carry more!! Why can't they make that here? That's why I was looking for something similar, spoke with Mapei and Ardex and they don't do an equivalent, but Mapei were great, had their chemist look into it and seemed genuinely interested in helping me out. Looking at the cement mortar stuff here, thought there might accidently be something comparable and then started wondering about the difference between it all...

hope they don't think it's drugs Gisella, bags of white powder and all that!

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Originally Posted by faithhealer

hope they don't think it's drugs Gisella, bags of white powder and all that!

It's not white powder, but could look like plastic explosive! It's beige and ready mixed, like a soft putty in a clear plastic bag, not much of a label either, heavy like dough, incredible to work with as it cleans up easily, you can choose consistency by adding water or strength by adding cememt, but is mainly made of resins and is even not very toxic either! Hardly smells, and I worked with it and just loved it. Dries rock hard, but the plasticisers make it quite flexible, too, as said depending on mix.

Originally Posted by jay

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Looks god, as far as I could see. I would like to do more outdoor stuff, directly and bit by bit, but you need nice weather, don't you... freezing here today, you're not missing much right now