Hey all Nailed my first paying job today two small bathroom floors total of 2.6m2 with a 300x330 slate tile with a 4mm spacer.

the downstairs loo is concreate the upstairs is like gray ply with a green membrane over it? The house is a new build.

The Addesive Im thinking of using is bal white star as it is flexible,water resistant and because it is such a small area thought ready mixed would be better. and white star comes in a 5 ltr tub.

The grout 3.5kg bag of bal microflex wide joint grout grey.


Could anyone tell me if they are the best products to select may sound like a daft question.

Thanks.

Dispersion adhesive is of no use in the fixing of floor tiles.
This green membrane ? is it a covering or part of the floor, could be wax or more likely a plastic covering. Either way it sounds totally unsuitable to tile to without more prep work. i hope you have priced accordingly ?

Originally Posted by TARTAN TILER

Hey all Nailed my first paying job today two small bathroom floors total of 2.6m2 with a 300x330 slate tile with a 4mm spacer.

the downstairs loo is concreate the upstairs is like gray ply with a green membrane over it? The house is a new build.

The Addesive Im thinking of using is bal white star as it is flexible,water resistant and because it is such a small area thought ready mixed would be better. and white star comes in a 5 ltr tub.

The grout 3.5kg bag of bal microflex wide joint grout grey.


Could anyone tell me if they are the best products to select may sound like a daft question.

Thanks.

Haven't you recently just done a course..?

Did they explain adhesives..?

I think you need to ask for some advice before you go any further!
Don't rush in to anything.
No.1 - Bal white star is a wall tile adhesive.
Is it real slate or a slate effect tile?
No such thing as a daft question .

Your winding us up?

White star on a floor lol

Not suitable for a floor, Not suitable for chipboard and not suitable for slate

With your knowledge you shouldnt be working in peoples homes

Originally Posted by simhopper

Your winding us up?

White star on a floor lol

Not suitable for a floor, Not suitable for chipboard and not suitable for slate

With your knowledge you shouldnt be working in peoples homes

Steady on there...

Originally Posted by Dave

Steady on there...

Why

Hes one of the clowns that we follow around

And he advertises on a local site i use.....has no idea on substrates, adhesives so what chance do his future customers have

Save the adhesive and use the dung off your horse

Originally Posted by simhopper

Your winding us up?

White star on a floor lol

Not suitable for a floor, Not suitable for chipboard and not suitable for slate

With your knowledge you shouldnt be working in peoples homes

Sometimes its better not to give any advice if you can't be positive.
We all have opinions but some remarks are better thought and not posted.

Too late - youv'e obviously got something stuck up your rear end!

Originally Posted by simhopper

Your winding us up?

White star on a floor lol

Not suitable for a floor, Not suitable for chipboard and not suitable for slate

With your knowledge you shouldnt be working in peoples homes

a bit harsh simon!

we should be pointing this guy in the right direction rather than slating(no pun intented) him!

i think you should be asking advice mate as this is a bit of a high profile job for a first timer

hiya tartan,the green floor sounds like it may be green chipboard which would need boarded over before you tile it bud,

altho white star is flexi and is a good adhesive its not suited for floors its a wall adhesive as are most addys out of tubs

choose a flexible cement based adhesive that you mix yourself,,mapei keraquik is a good one to use as it has a longer life in the bucket giving you more time for your first job without having the worry of it going off.

what kind of slate is it tartan as some slates come all diff thicknesses, wide joint grout is a good choice for the floor ask away tartan its the only way to learn

Originally Posted by simhopper

Why

Hes one of the clowns that we follow around

And he advertises on a local site i use.....has no idea on substrates, adhesives so what chance do his future customers have

Save the adhesive and use the dung off your horse

Because i said so and if you continue i will remove you from this forum..

Read the rules >>> Forum Rules

No need for your rudeness.

Yes just complated a course covered slate all you use is bal training addy they do not cover adhesives in detail. they are slate and i have an impregnating sealer and am aware how to grade the slate thick to thin and seal before grouting and seal afterwords.

The downstairs loo is fine as it is a concreate subfloor and the grout im using is fine.

im think it might be a waterproof membrane on the floor not sure.

Originally Posted by TARTAN TILER

Yes just complated a course covered slate all you use is bal training addy they do not cover adhesives in detail. they are slate and i have an impregnating sealer and am aware how to grade the slate thick to thin and seal before grouting and seal afterwords.

The downstairs loo is fine as it is a concreate subfloor and the grout im using is fine.

im think it might be a waterproof membrane on the floor not sure.

Ok.. nice one..

We will talk you through what you need to use..

You will need to cover it in some way with a tile backer board and if they are newbuilds it will be chipboard not ply most likely. The trouble is we need to know what this membrane is, i would say its just a plastic covering. you cant tile onto that.

your right tartan you do nee flexi addy just take you some time to get up to speed with what ones do what,mapei do a little black book if you email them they will send you one out im sure and any thing u need to read up on is in it

plywood floors need at least a single part flexi adhesive where as concrete floors need non-flexi adhesives m8!

hope this helps!

i Think some of the comments are out out of order ill rember to keep my questions to myself the reason im asking so i dont make a mistake thought thats what the forrum was about.

Originally Posted by TARTAN TILER

i Think some of the comments are out out of order ill rember to keep my questions to myself the reason im asking so i dont make a mistake thought thats what the forrum was about.

It is and just ignore the remarks made.

It is better to ask than do it and get it wrong and liable for a law suit.

any question is a valid question or point of view,some people just get up there selves and think they know it all

people have to start somewhere so don't be afraid to ask no matter how trivial you think it may be

Originally Posted by TARTAN TILER

i Think some of the comments are out out of order ill rember to keep my questions to myself the reason im asking so i dont make a mistake thought thats what the forrum was about.

dont let people upset you tt

your better off coming on here and asking than learning by making mistakes

ask away and we will advise you

mike

we all started somewhere thanks to those for the constructive advice i do appreciate it.

Originally Posted by TARTAN TILER

i Think some of the comments are out out of order ill rember to keep my questions to myself the reason im asking so i dont make a mistake thought thats what the forrum was about.

keep asking mate, we pride ourselves on our friendly and professional advice, this dictum seems to have bypassed some members at the moment... it'll get sorted, and we are here to help

Originally Posted by TARTAN TILER

i Think some of the comments are out out of order ill rember to keep my questions to myself the reason im asking so i dont make a mistake thought thats what the forrum was about.

Dont let one bad apple spoil it for you. Ask your questions, thats what the forum is for....DIY, Newcomers and Established tilers.....we all need advice from time to time

Originally Posted by TARTAN TILER

i Think some of the comments are out out of order ill rember to keep my questions to myself the reason im asking so i dont make a mistake thought thats what the forrum was about.

You'll have to toughen up a bit to survive in the real world if you are upset at some of the posts!
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and some are passionate about our industry and this could cloud their judgement and response.
Your only concern is to make sure you provide your customer with the best possible job using the best methods and best materials available.
To that end your thread has indicated a lack of basic knowledge which we at the Tilers Forum are more than happy to help with.
Take the advice on offer and within a short period of time you will be among the first to help the next with their 1st paying job.

well said TJ, just a shame it wasn't worded as eloquently previously

Your right Tartantiler we do all have to start somewhere. You need advise hand have come to the right place to get it so your doing ok so far!

Its a shame the course didnt cover more on the different adhesives and theirs uses.But what they didnt teach you perhaps you can learn here.

With regards to the grey flooring upstairs, are you sure its ply and not chipboard? If its new build it could be Safedeck which is a waterproofed chipboard which has had some discussion on here recently and decided it wasnt suitable to tile on directly. You would need to overlay it with a backer board. You could try and ask the homeowner tif they knw what it is. It wont make you sound like a novice as it sound as though it could be a new product.

the waterproofing may be a laticrete 9240 but as stated above you need to know what the substrate and waterproofing is a bit more info required

I am a little shocked, the first things we learnt were substrates and adhesives You will learn more on here mate, most are very helpful, good luck with your first job

hi tartan,im doing a full stone bathroom refit in a few weeks time if you want you can pop in and ill show you how to use some products,,were using hardibacker boards,self levelling the floor,access panels to be made etc etc theres not enough on the job to pay you on the job but a few hours for a few days popping in mate will give you a good idea on how things are done,pm me if interested

good on ya kilty55, tartan i would take him up on that, dont look at it as unpaid work look at it as free training