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    Default Aquapanel Vs Hardibacker Vs NMP

    There are so many posts about these boards and each of the manufacturer websites has good information but I think it can be very confusing knowing when to use which one and how best to install

    So I thought it would be interesting to know...

    Which do you use most?

    Why and in what situation? (eg. bathroom floors when floor is deflection free to give a good surface to tile on)

    What method do you use to install?

    Look forward to your responses
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    Default Re: Aquapanel Vs Hardibacker Vs NMP

    actually the board i use most at the moment is www.aquathermpoolinsulation.co.uk which we fix and supplie to insulate swimming pools ,i will have to write a piece on it for the guys on the forum soon, but i think it might work as a tile-backer board for walls/ floor as well ill find out

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    Default Re: Aquapanel Vs Hardibacker Vs NMP

    Quote Originally Posted by gooner59 View Post
    actually the board i use most at the moment is www.aquathermpoolinsulation.co.uk which we fix and supplie to insulate swimming pools ,i will have to write a piece on it for the guys on the forum soon, but i think it might work as a tile-backer board for walls/ floor as well ill find out
    That's your website mate, do you sell it as well as use it? and what price range is it?
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    well we are toying with selling it as well!! but i dont want anyone to mess up when using it, because the aquatherm might get a bad reputation and i dont want that!! so at the mo we are handling all the fixing ourselves, but in the near future!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooner59 View Post
    well we are toying with selling it as well!! but i dont want anyone to mess up when using it, because the aquatherm might get a bad reputation and i dont want that!! so at the mo we are handling all the fixing ourselves, but in the near future!!!
    I can sense a nice little sideline for you here

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    hardie backer for me
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    hardie backer for me
    Why do you use Hardie rather than the others?
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    Default Re: Aquapanel Vs Hardibacker Vs NMP

    I dont like the adhesive method of fixing with nmp as I feel it wont take up any uneveness in the floor, with backer you can bed onto addy

    ive used backer on walls and floors and feel it wont break down if wet

    mainly its what im used to and feel comfortable with
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    Default Re: Aquapanel Vs Hardibacker Vs NMP

    hi mark

    on the whole, boards tend to fall into 3 categories....

    1.plasterboard and water resistant variants...
    2.backerboards/nmp etc....harder wareing, less impervious to water penetration, dont break down as easy as plasterboard
    3. then the next level..wedi, marmox, dukker, shluter etc. these are the most expensive due to their thermal values, weight, and ultra water resistance

    so when you are pricing, you will pick a board from the above category which is satisfactory for the cost and the customers requirements and your availability!!

    for ex. you may reboard a bathroom in plasterboard but just tank the shower and bath area..this will be suitable and less expensive as doing it in backerboard and tanking.

    then on the other hand, a customer who wants good thermal values and full water protection will insist on wedi etc....its all down to cost. you will get to know a product an know its cost and its you that will decide.. nmp and backerboards are similar but a little different regarding their fitting requirements..if nmp is cheaper and readily available then you might find thats the best option but if mike tt has access to backer board, he'll go for that...

    what i will say is, thermal issues are becoming very important and people with money who are into preserving the enviroment will want to know about thermal boards as gooner is stating....then again if theres a family on a low income and it the kids trainers or wedi board, in all fairness they are going to want to only pay what is important to their budget and current prorities....

    hope this helps a bit mate
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    i agree 100% there ED, and IMO i think that the thermal issues will come to the front NOW, because we cannot afford to waste our money anymore, as a country, i think that plasterboard will be a thing of the past soon!!

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    talking about why I always use backer reminded of me why I stick with it

    years ago when I was kitchen fitting topps had a square of backer board in a plastic waterfilled box on the counter and every time I went in i would give it a shake to see if it had broken down, it hadnt

    they would tell me I should use it on the floors but I wouldnt due to the cost

    for years I shook that bit of backer and it never disintegrated. so when I was replacing shower enclosures that had broken down I went for backer

    im not going to change now unless a new product outperforms it
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    i was talking to a QS the other day and he said it was the new buzz in the industrie and if you realy think about it ,it's madness to heat a room/pool then let that heat just go straight out of the walls/floor, just a wast of good money and i like to offer the latest stuff

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    Cheers lads, some great information there
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    Default Re: Aquapanel Vs Hardibacker Vs NMP

    am I correct in thinking that Hardiebacker sheets are just under 1m2 and Aquapanel are just over 1m2 ? or is that incorrect?
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    thats right
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    Default Re: Aquapanel Vs Hardibacker Vs NMP

    I use No More Ply but Im thinking of changing over to Hardie because of the adheisive issues that Mike talks about above. I had a word with the Hardie rep a while ago and it turns out that 2 blokes from Liverpool took the concept of Haries backer board and took it to asia to have a competitor made, next thing we have No More Ply. Apparently Hardie and NMP are exactly the same thing... Well I found it interesting

    As for aquapanel, I used it once and I wont be using it again. Horrid stuff IMO.

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    Default Re: Aquapanel Vs Hardibacker Vs NMP

    Interesting to know that Richard, Thanks

    I have used Aquapanel and I found it ok to use and I would use it again. This might sound strange but I like the smell of Aquapanel, not saying that smell is a reason to use something but it's like petrol is nice to some people.
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    Hardi backer from topps.. 1.2 x 0.8 = 0.96 sqr mtr and ones from ctd are 1.5 x 0.9 = 1.35 sqr mtr but ctd charge more for that size.

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    I have used Aquapanel and I found it ok to use and I would use it again. This might sound strange put I like the smell of Aquapanel, not saying that smell is a reason to use something but it's like petrol is nice to some people.

    Thats brilliant! I know what you mean, I love the smell of keraquick and I LOVE the smell of petrol..

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