hi all, can anyone give me an easy way to set out to achieve a full tile round the corners whats the best method??i trained at pts a while back still srugglin to get my head around it,can anyone put some pictures on for me please??whats the best time to go price a job should i go in at a reasonable price to gain experiance and get work,when i give my price quote should i avoid the customer knowing my square m rate???thanks all...

Did Pts not go through this with you on the course

I know I am repeating myself, but make a staff, PTS must have covered this. A staff or pinch rod/ gauging stick, is basically a piece of timber you mark your tile joints on inc spacers. Using this you predetermine where your cuts fall. Hope this helps

sort of mate i got a bay round the back and didnt get much attention sharon was not helpful and clinton was the best there he was ill for the duration of my 4 weeks,ihad him for the last 3 days i was gutted some of the army lads said he payed so much attenchion if you needed it,strugglin to get my head round setting out thats all my work is neat and tidy tho...

Originally Posted by Phil Hobson

I know I am repeating myself, but make a staff, PTS must have covered this. A staff or pinch rod/ gauging stick, is basically a piece of timber you mark your tile joints on inc spacers. Using this you predetermine where your cuts fall. Hope this helps

can i raise a point here ? , i aint been on any tiling courses , i suspect i never will , one of the first things that crossed my mind was to make a gauging stick to see where cuts are going to be , should the course have not taught the OP this as a basic bit of training

Well i know i do mostly kitchen splashbacks but i still mark the walls if im unsure, i have even gone as far as laying tiles out in a line to get my head round the cuts, Cripo dont ever be embarrased about how you layout its all about how you feel comfortable and what gets you the right results

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

can i raise a point here ? , i aint been on any tiling courses , i suspect i never will , one of the first things that crossed my mind was to make a gauging stick to see where cuts are going to be , should the course have not taught the OP this as a basic bit of training

Paul if you are an enthusiastic amateur then the chances are that you may one day need a course or you will get the help from this forum, either way I dont think that it helps when you state the obvious regarding staffs/measuring sticks etc, if he wasn't shown how to mark out then we will help him. If he did know about gauging etc then he would not have asked. Many people ask really basic questions on the forum and we keep answering all the time, they are basic to us, not the question asker. There are professional tilers on here that also ask for advice, there are no silly questions.

Originally Posted by diamondtiling

Paul if you are an enthusiastic amateur then the chances are that you may one day need a course or you will get the help from this forum, either way I dont think that it helps when you state the obvious regarding staffs/measuring sticks etc, if he wasn't shown how to mark out then we will help him. If he did know about gauging etc then he would not have asked. Many people ask really basic questions on the forum and we keep answering all the time, they are basic to us, not the question asker. There are professional tilers on here that also ask for advice, there are no silly questions.

i think my point may have been mistook , i agree there are no silly questions , and i will admit that i have been very impressed by the help i have been given so far , it just seemed that in my opinion a gauging stick is a simple thing that should be a cornerstone of the tiling trade and therefore one of the things that a ( paid for presumably ) tiling course should teach

I went on a 6 week course at alpine, you dont need a stick, i work mine out on the wall allowing for joint, it works ok for me

Good courses and bad courses.
After 20 years tiling I have picked up many good tips from the fellas on here. Sometimes a new question asker may have plucked up the courage to actually ask the question in the first place, we don't want them to log off in a few minutes thinking they are asking something basic. Its only basic if you know how to do it.

Originally Posted by Aqua Tiling

I went on a 6 week course at alpine, you dont need a stick, i work mine out on the wall allowing for joint, it works ok for me

cool , it is probably easier if i back out of this , one last comment though , i made myself a stick to help me visualise where cuts are going to be , saved a lot of time marking walls and then getting confussed about which marks to work from and to

when i do mine i either mark centre tile at the top half and centre joint at the bottom, or do them in different colour pens, the thing i thought wrong with having a stick, is having to keep getting new ones as tiles are all different, am i right in thinking that

Originally Posted by diamondtiling

Paul if you are an enthusiastic amateur then the chances are that you may one day need a course or you will get the help from this forum, either way I dont think that it helps when you state the obvious regarding staffs/measuring sticks etc, if he wasn't shown how to mark out then we will help him. If he did know about gauging etc then he would not have asked. Many people ask really basic questions on the forum and we keep answering all the time, they are basic to us, not the question asker. There are professional tilers on here that also ask for advice, there are no silly questions.

thanks diamond tiling would like to be shown properly,the gage rod is basic and im shure it wont be spot on for getting an appearance of a full tile i just want to grasp it and have good results and happy customers and slowly build my tile career through the year..thanks again diamond tiling for a common sense reply...cheers

Cripo,

If you did your course at Harlow, it's possible that you are not too far from me; I'm in Haverhill, near Cambridge.

If you want some assistance with setting out, you can PM me and we'll arrange some time where you can meet me on a job and I will provide as many free lessons as you require.

The advice above is very good but sometimes putting it into practice needs some hand holding.

Either way, good luck mate.

Daz

nice one daz im in lincolnshire,i would easily drive over for some help well worth it! will take you up on that one mate i could give you a ring and arrange something my number is 07723058323 thanks pal need more like you about mate.....

Originally Posted by cripo

sort of mate i got a bay round the back and didnt get much attention sharon was not helpful and clinton was the best there he was ill for the duration of my 4 weeks,ihad him for the last 3 days i was gutted some of the army lads said he payed so much attenchion if you needed it,strugglin to get my head round setting out thats all my work is neat and tidy tho...

What about Tony who works there did'nt he get involved with the training

Originally Posted by Aqua Tiling

when i do mine i either mark centre tile at the top half and centre joint at the bottom, or do them in different colour pens, the thing i thought wrong with having a stick, is having to keep getting new ones as tiles are all different, am i right in thinking that

I use a 2m straight edge and run a new strip of masking tape along it each time. mark the 1 tile + 1 spacer distance all along and it's easy.

Originally Posted by whitebeam

What about Tony who works there did'nt he get involved with the training

Tony, Clinton and the big lad (forget his name) were excellent, I thought......

What a good offer from above cant ask for more than that,what i will say is your better spending a good hour setting out and knowing exactly where your tiles are going to be and your not leaving your self any difacult cuts.

Originally Posted by Captain Slow

Cripo,
If you did your course at Harlow, it's possible that you are not too far from me; I'm in Haverhill, near Cambridge.
If you want some assistance with setting out, you can PM me and we'll arrange some time where you can meet me on a job and I will provide as many free lessons as you require.
The advice above is very good but sometimes putting it into practice needs some hand holding.
Either way, good luck mate.
Daz

Same here Cripo, Not wanting to tread on Daz's toes but if you're Harlow based you're fairly local to me too as I'm in Braintree. Good luck

Oops! sorry about that, just seen the other posts......

well you're nowhere near me, but if you get a job in Lake District.....

centre the most eye catching part of the room if its a floor lay some tiles down dry so you no exatly were they are goin to be fixed doing this also gives you a chance off looking for shade difference of damaged etc