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    Default Need to build a doorstep up

    I've been asked to quote for the following small job:- customers house is a former shop with a sandstone front door step which has worn unevenly over the years and they now want it tiling over with quarry tiles. The dip in the middle of the stone is about 20mm what should i use to build this up to level? should i key the sandstone with a grinder first?
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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    Adhesive should be fine just check with supplier which addy to use for the sandstone..
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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    firstly how much of a dip?The adhesive which you use might not be suitable to build up the depth,so to avoid failure i would check the depth of dip and your adhesive spec for depth.It might be worth shuttering the steps with sand and cement mix.
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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    Quote Originally Posted by brian c View Post
    firstly how much of a dip?The adhesive which you use might not be suitable to build up the depth,so to avoid failure i would check the depth of dip and your adhesive spec for depth.It might be worth shuttering the steps with sand and cement mix.
    The depth is about 20mm - 30mm at the worst point - think the customer is worried about sand/cement mix blowing, any tips?

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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    Could you knock off the old sandstone then slurry and a bit of screed mixed with sbr
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    Could you knock off the old sandstone then slurry and a bit of screed mixed with sbr
    Can't knock off the old sandstone as it forms the step and part buried, the problems is that its worn but only in the middle.

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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    AHH, ardex do a powder which can be built up to 20mm
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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    mapei ultraplan maxi can also be used.
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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    Do you reckon straight onto the stone as its been worn smooth or use the grinder to roughen it up a bit?

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    Adesilex P4 (Mapei) can be used as a smoothing/levelling compound and can be built up to 20mm, it's the one Mapei recommend for external work

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    i would use grinder to ensure a good key.
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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    Quote Originally Posted by doug boardley View Post
    Adesilex P4 (Mapei) can be used as a smoothing/levelling compound and can be built up to 20mm, it's the one Mapei recommend for external work
    Do you have any experience of using this? If its a leveller is it runny?
    The doorstep leads onto a tarmac pavement and even with shuttering most slc's i've used would end up all over the pavement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlee View Post
    Do you have any experience of using this? If its a leveller is it runny?
    The doorstep leads onto a tarmac pavement and even with shuttering most slc's i've used would end up all over the pavement.
    I used 4 bags today as it happens, first time I've used it and it was good to use. It is runny, so your shuttering would have to be a good one, and you'd have to work clean

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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    That's what's putting me off slc, too runny for this one i think.
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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    you def need a rapid setting SLC which the mapei's are. looks like you'll have to shutter a bit ie board the front etc to stop the SLC running out,i woulsd silicon the inner joint just to be sure
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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    just build it up with other tiles until you can put the finishing tiles on it, one tile in the middle to get you to a level you can work from


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    Default Re: Need to build a doorstep up

    Or use a quick set render?
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