I don't expect this to be a usy thread but does anyone know of any Gypsum Based tile adhesives.

There are quite a few in France Germany and Holland but not for some reason in the UK.

I know of GBTA01 from creative impressions and Benfergyps available through Benfer stockists.

Not interested in prices at this stage justv suppliers, manufacturers or stockists

Thanks for any help and info

kerakoll......

Originally Posted by Dave

kerakoll......

Cheers Dave. Is that the tubbed one or do they have a powdered one do you know?

It's powdered especially for gypsum substrates.

Originally Posted by Ajax123

I don't expect this to be a usy thread but does anyone know of any Gypsum Based tile adhesives.

There are quite a few in France Germany and Holland but not for some reason in the UK.

I know of GBTA01 from creative impressions and Benfergyps available through Benfer stockists.

Not interested in prices at this stage justv suppliers, manufacturers or stockists

Thanks for any help and info

Thought they were the company that does printed concrete

Originally Posted by whitebeam

Thought they were the company that does printed concrete

They are. They also have a small range of flooring ancilliaries - levelling compound, primer and tile addy.

this owt to do with "alabaster" thread Ajax?

Originally Posted by doug boardley

this owt to do with "alabaster" thread Ajax?

No doug - didn't see that one. It's all about my obsession with anhydrite floor screeds cos I keep getting called out to delaminated tile complaints where tilers have used cement addy and inadequate primer.
My advice is get rid of cement on anhydrite and use gypsum cos its the same stuff. My company in Germany have recomended it for about 5 years now and result is almost zero delamination problems. Same in France and Holland where there is lots more anhydrite and even more tiling than in the UK. Problem is there aren't many addys in the UK based on Gypsum so thought would ask the forum for help finding them. Helping tilers and clients to help themselves sort of thing.

Mind you alabaster is gypsum based as well so maybe would be ok there as well.

there's a thread been posted recently about tiling onto alabaster

Found another one today - Alphycol 725 from Forbo Flooring. Very big in Holland.
Am assured it is easily available in the UK direct from Forbo - just awaiting confirmation

That's 4 on the list - it's getting bigger

Any more to add to this list Alan..?

I have a very large tiling project next month( around 7 weeks work) onto Gyvlon screeds..

and i am thinking of using GBTA and Ditra.. so some more suppliers would be very useful..

I have to spec around 100sqm porcelain onto a Gyvlon screed, so any advise is appreciated. Suppliers of primer and addy as well as techniques / processes etc.?

Kerakoll H40 Eco Ideal adhesive is specially formulated for fixing directly to anhydrite screeds without the need to prime.

hope this helps.

Originally Posted by kkoll

Kerakoll H40 Eco Ideal adhesive is specially formulated for fixing directly to anhydrite screeds without the need to prime.

hope this helps.

Yes.. but i'm afraid the price of kerakoll is too high compared to other brands..

nicobond make a gypsum based tile adhesive

Originally Posted by garythetiler

nicobond make a gypsum based tile adhesive

Details please (product name reference web link or anything like that). I will then add it to my list

Originally Posted by Captain Slow

I have to spec around 100sqm porcelain onto a Gyvlon screed, so any advise is appreciated. Suppliers of primer and addy as well as techniques / processes etc.?

PM Sent captain...

http://www.ncdirect.co.uk/pdf/unique.pdf i think this is the one i had a go with at one of the shows.

Originally Posted by deanotile

http://www.ncdirect.co.uk/pdf/unique.pdf i think this is the one i had a go with at one of the shows.

According to that pdf Dean.. it is just a wall adhesive and it says that on the bag as well..

it dos that m8 but it also says in the dat that it is ok For use in situations
• Sand/cement screeds and rendering • Brick and blockwork • Tile
backing boards e.g. Nicobond LUX Elements, Aquapanel, C.P.
Board • Concrete • Plasterboard • Plywood • and rigidly fixed
timber surfaces.

I know of 4 true gypsum adhesives some more easily available than others.
Weber do one for floors. Used a lot in France. They have just bought some into the UK. Forbo flooring also do one called Alphycol 725. PCI do one but I have struggled to get an easy supply in the UK althoguh have managed it in the past and of course my personal favorites in this category Creative impressions GBTA. Favorite cos it is much easier to get hold of.

They are more expensive than the cement based ones and conform to European Standards. They meet the requirements for the British standards generally in terms of performance, qualtiy, etc etc etc but as the standards talk specifically about Cement the gypsum based ones don't comply in that respect.

I saw that but is that walls only.. you get them substrates on walls as well.. just on the bag it does say wall tile adhesive.. so just wondered.. deffo worth checking out before floor usage..

Originally Posted by Dave

I saw that but is that walls only.. you get them substrates on walls as well.. just on the bag it does say wall tile adhesive.. so just wondered.. deffo worth checking out before floor usage..

always worth checking with manufacturers before using a new product

Originally Posted by Dave

Yes.. but i'm afraid the price of kerakoll is too high compared to other brands..

Sorry for delayed response to this, but where has price been mentioned in this thread? Kerakoll is a quality adhesive manufacturer and as such yes we are more expensive than others, as are BAL and Ardex!!

H40 Ideal is a brilliant white adhesive for no prime fixing to plastered walls and to anhydrite screeds.

Should you wish to sample it or any other products then PM me.

Seen H40Ideal used lots as well - agreed never seen an issue - have also recomended that on numerous occasions. Not mentioned it in this thread myself though cos its about Gypsum based adhesives.

Originally Posted by kkoll

Sorry for delayed response to this, but where has price been mentioned in this thread? Kerakoll is a quality adhesive manufacturer and as such yes we are more expensive than others, as are BAL and Ardex!!

H40 Ideal is a brilliant white adhesive for no prime fixing to plastered walls and to anhydrite screeds.

Should you wish to sample it or any other products then PM me.

Price has been mentioned else where on our forums..

But price is not always an issue if it is worthwhile product..

Biscem make a ready mixed wall adhesive that is Gypusm based adhesive

Originally Posted by kkoll

H40 Ideal is a brilliant white adhesive for no prime fixing to plastered walls and to anhydrite screeds.

Should you wish to sample it or any other products then PM me.

Hi Bill.. Nice to meet you today..

Originally Posted by Gazzatile

Biscem make a ready mixed wall adhesive that is Gypusm based adhesive

What is it called ?

Cannot remember the name but comes in a green tub hope this helps