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    I want to be sure before starting, so can anyone answer whether there is any preparation required before laying ceramic onto concrete floors?
    Im sure there ain't but want to be certain.

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    If the floor is level then just prime as per adhesive manufacturers instructions.

    If its unlevel the a coat of self levelling compound first.

    If there is UFH installed then flexi adhesive needed.

    If its new screed then make sure its cured properly.

    Is it a floating floor?
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    all as davy_g says but would prefer porcelain tiles on floors as they will not wear with traffic!
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    can't think I've ever primed a concrete floor

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    Quote Originally Posted by doug boardley View Post
    can't think I've ever primed a concrete floor
    I do but only to lock in residual dust!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpygrouter View Post
    I do but only to lock in residual dust!
    True Russ, that is the only time I've primed a conc floor too!

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    a coat of APD never hurts

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    [QUOTE=Terry Cottar;210172]a coat of APD never hurts

    Sorry to be a newbie pain but can you remind me What is APD?

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    always prime

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    [quote=Little5;210196]
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    a coat of APD never hurts

    Sorry to be a newbie pain but can you remind me What is APD?
    BAL APD Acrylic primer.
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    Smile Re: prep work on concrete floors

    Hello chaps, first time onto the forum for me so excuse my inexperience. Searched through your forum which is excellent and this was the closest to my query.

    I've built a new house and have installed UFH with concrete floors. Floors are well tried and had a wooden floor fitter out today who verified dampness levels are ok (doing bedrooms with wood). I've never tiled before but am going to try and tackle to job myself.....using porcelain tiles for all rooms downstairs that comes in 3 sizes. Got a quote for the job and it was £2500.

    Anyway, my question is do I need to treat floor before applying flexible adhesive? One tiler told me I needed to use primer, another said to use unibond sealer, and guy today said to use nothing - just clean and apply adhesive.

    On another note, any good sites for examples of tile patters using three tile sizes?

    Cheers, and well done on a good site!

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    i use sbr bond on concrete

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    I always prime with sbr,if in doubt prime it out.

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    Cheers. What is the benefit of using primer as opposed to just going straight with flexible adhesive after washing concrete?

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    You don't always need to prime concrete...

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    Ah, now you see my dilemna!

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    its safer to prime though imo

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    Quote Originally Posted by pete f View Post
    its safer to prime though imo

    why.?....if i may ask.

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    Default Re: prep work on concrete floors

    Damp down and a good sweep of the screed, just work the addy into the floor
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    ok you prime walls to eliminate dust so i prime floors for same reason most dust lands on floors sweeping gets rid of most damp down helps priming gives proper surface to tile to (told to prime in 1st year of tiling hard habit to break)also gives you a feel of floor heights and uneven .

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    its easier to prime the floor than hoover up the dust imo

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    If the floor is dusty........just give it a sweep and damp down as you go to slow the suction.

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    priming also helps glue set time controling the speed it goes off instead of the moisture being sucked out by dry concrete damping down will only work 100 % if you wash as in grouting otherwise your just slurrying dust around question do you prime cement sheet///////////
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