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Discuss BAL microflex mixing gone wrong in the Tile Adhesive, Grout and Substrate Preparation at TilersForums; Hi fellas, I mixed up some Bal microflex grout this evening exactly to the instructions: 4 parts powder to 1 part water, to make it easier I followed the example ...
          
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    Default BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Hi fellas,

    I mixed up some Bal microflex grout this evening exactly to the instructions:

    4 parts powder to 1 part water, to make it easier I followed the example of 250ml water to 1kg of powder.

    I mixed using a whisk on a drill at the slowest speed but I could tell that this was no way going to be usable, the final mix was an extremely stiff paste, very very dry so I ended up throwing it away.

    Where did I go wrong?
    Last edited by jrm; 05-05-2009 at 10:28 PM.

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Should have just added a bit more water till it was right consistency...

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    I like mixing the grout by hand tool so get a more of a feel for it
    "Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes"

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    How thick should it feel guys? Thicker than adhesive?

    Should it fall off the grout float slowly?

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    It should have body to it but like you mention just slide off the mixing tool. Each grout tends to have it's own characteristics for that manufacturer, If all else fails read the instructions
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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    If all else fails read the instructions
    Which is exactly what i did but it went wrong!

    250ml of water to 1kg of powder seems like a rather strange ratio to me, even by reading it I knew it was going to be very dry

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    As has been said, add just a touch of water at a time until it's the right consistency, I also mix mine by hand and depending on what and where adjust it to suit, this only takes a matter of spoonful's between stiff and loose, once grout has been mixed and it has reached it's maximum water absorption it doesn't take much water at all to turn it to slop, so be careful, as said, a few drops at a time so to speak.

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Spoke to BAL technical this morning and they advised me to return it back to Topps so it can be collected and tested.

    Topps gave me a replacement bag which i've mixed in exactly the same way and the consistency was perfect.

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Strange...

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    I always hand mix, cant be bothered to get the drill out, get the paddle out, mix up then clean.

    Just use a bucket trowell, always keep some grout back in the bag becuase its easy to add slightly too much water, if you put all the powder in first your a bit stuck if you keep a bit back and add too much water then you have some powder to save the situation.

    I mix to a mr whippy ice cream consistency, not too keen on the taste though

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    I mix with my hand.

    I can feel the texture properly that way. Just make sure you wear a glove.

    By glove i mean a thin rubber one that doctors use so u can still feel things.

    Yes i do have a big stock pile of them...yes it is only for grouting...honest.
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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by wivers View Post
    Yes i do have a big stock pile of them...yes it is only for grouting...honest.
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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    You need an internal Oli?? I may be getting one sooner than i think if my court hearing goes pete tong

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by jrm View Post
    Spoke to BAL technical this morning and they advised me to return it back to Topps so it can be collected and tested.

    Topps gave me a replacement bag which i've mixed in exactly the same way and the consistency was perfect.

    Anyone want to bet on what BALs comments will be ?
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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Efflorecence!!!!!!!?????? Thats what they normally put everything down to.

    "yes the grouts cracking" ...Efflorescence!

    "the black grouts dried pink?" Efflorescence!!

    "the tiles all fell off the wall, broke the bath and killed the dog" EFFLORESCENCE!

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by wivers View Post
    Efflorecence!!!!!!!?????? Thats what they normally put everything down to.

    "yes the grouts cracking" ...Efflorescence!

    "the black grouts dried pink?" Efflorescence!!

    "the tiles all fell off the wall, broke the bath and killed the dog" EFFLORESCENCE!

    Jeez sounds like that Efflorescence is vicious,what exactly is it.? can you explain it to me like i am a 6 year old.???

    I dont want to catch it.

    Mapei ultracolour plus states that is should be mechanically mixed.

    Is it still ok to mix by hand.?

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    I aint got any tax on my van... Efflorescence

    I have to go to court because i aint got any tax....Efflorescence

    I have to go to jail because of the tax.... Efflorescence

    I'm in a cell with mr Verynice guy.... Efflorescence

    He has a thing for ginger men....Efflorescence

    He makes me pick his soap up in the showers..... Efflorescence

    TJ is round my house looking after my wife.... Efflorescence

    Dear Wivers, your dumped! Love Wifey.... Efflorescence

    I'm hanging by a rope in my cell.... Efflorescence

    Hear lies Gary Wivers.....Efflorescence

    TJ has all my work... Efflorescence

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    you div

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    you love it son... lol

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    Default Re: BAL microflex mixing gone wrong

    What the hell is efflorescence?

    Or is it one of them technical excusses that no one but the manufacturer understands?

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