Hi all, just got some trav imitation tiles (310 x 450) which I decided to fit in brickblock pattern with 2 mm joints over about 16 sq/m in the shower/bathroom.

Im looking for a good value waterproof / flexible adhesive and grout, I was going to get the Mapei Ultracolorplus but Ive read some horror stories about it going patchy and going off really fast, so I am leaning away from this as I'm not the fastest.

PS what quantities would I need for 16sq/m

What are these trav imitation tiles made from ? and what background are you tiling onto ?

Assuming it's plasterboard I'd prime them first, then use a rapid set adhesive, white if needed, or use single part if you want longer curing times and a smooth fine grain grout, I normally use Bal for both, or Topps own, which I think is still Palace.

I always work on between 4 to 5 sqm per bag of rapid set adhesive, so your looking at between 3 to 4 bags.

and a 5kg bag of grout

sorry, the tiles are Ceramic and yes its on plasterboard

Use Mapei powder gear on the walls mate, and prime.

which mapei and which bal adhesives ?

Bal Rapid set

Bal Supercover

bloomin heck they are pricey - it will cost as much as the tiles

how about Adesilex P9 followed by UltraColor Plus These are still regaurded as good products arent they and they are half the price of the Bal

Originally Posted by janzbro

bloomin heck they are pricey - it will cost as much as the tiles

not the cheapest option on the market but cheaper than having to do the job twice these products will save you alot of worry and time.

Weber rapid set SP white & Mapei Ultracolor Plus.

If you using white on the grout it wont go patchy, it happens moreso on the darker colours - not that i've ever had a problem, but you do have to be regimental as to how you mix ie mechanical and time left prior to sponging with the washboy

Janzbro you could use bal white star and maybe 5kg of superflex ivory grout these products are fine for the tiles your fixing

Im with CJ on this one


TJ

Hi janzbro these are classed as large format tiles i would'nt use tubbed gear for these.you need a powder adhesive.if you get trade, weber set plus white.from ctd is the cheapest gear around at the moment its perfect for the job £10.50 for a 20kg you will need 4 bags.and get BAL microflex grout. if your tiling a shower this will need tanking and tubbed gear wont dry

I had read that and was trying to keep away from the tubbed stuff

and that price certainly is cheap

Now I just need one of you guys to help me get it from CTD

Morning janz...

P9 is spot on for your job in hand...it is more than capable to do the job....

I use all the time for wall tiling... it mixes very creamy and is easy to apply....

Originally Posted by Dave

Morning janz...

P9 is spot on for your job in hand...it is more than capable to do the job....

I use all the time for wall tiling... it mixes very creamy and is easy to apply....

moring, once mixed how long open time do I have with the P9

Do you mean on the wall open time or bucket life...


On the wall around 20 mins ...in the bucket over 8 hrs....

Cement based adhesive with good initial adhesion strength and no vertical slip for ceramic tiles.
Applications:
Interior and exterior bonding of ceramic tiles and mosaics of every type on floors, walls and ceilings on conventional substrates (cement renders and screeds, underfloor heating installations, brick walls, blocks walls, gypsum boards).
Also suitable for tile on tile with medium-size tiles (up to 900 cm2) and spot-bonding of insulating materials such as expanded polystyrene, expanded polyurethane, rock and glass wool, Eraclit® (wood-cement panels), sound-deadening panels, etc.
Installation over gypsum based or anhydrite based surfaces is possible after having first applied Primer G, Mapeprim SP or Primer S. Coverage
2-5 kg/m2. Packaging
20 kg bags, 4x5 kg boxes.

Mapei P9 PDF..

cheers eveyone for the help