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    I've got a bathroom next week with quite a large area that is boxed in with 6mm Ply... I've tried to tell the customer that 6mm isn't suitable for tiling, but i'm having a hard time convincing them, as the tiles that have just been taken off have been up for 15 years...... Any thoughts?

    How do the rest of you deal with these situations?

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    know where you are coming from, make it clear that as you are responsible for the tiling (staying put) you have to insist on correct ply. (give a bit of bs about insurance covering correct procedures or something!)

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    Questions :
    1) How well braced is the 6mm plywood.
    2) Who took off the original tiling - did they fall off or take time to remove.
    3) Is it in one piece or jointed.
    4) What type of adhesive will you use.
    5) In which part of the bathroom is it in - wet area!

    For me : If you have got any doubts offer to replace it at your own cost if neccessary and that will show the customer you want to do the job the way you think is the right way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithhealer View Post
    know where you are coming from, make it clear that as you are responsible for the tiling (staying put) you have to insist on correct ply. (give a bit of bs about insurance covering correct procedures or something!)
    Yeah that sounds like a plan.

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    Questions :
    1) How well braced is the 6mm plywood.
    2) Who took off the original tiling - did they fall off or take time to remove.
    3) Is it in one piece or jointed.
    4) What type of adhesive will you use.
    5) In which part of the bathroom is it in - wet area!

    For me : If you have got any doubts offer to replace it at your own cost if neccessary and that will show the customer you want to do the job the way you think is the right way.
    1. Not great, it flexes!
    2. They did, and had trouble removing some of the addy.
    3. Jointed.
    4. Open to suggestions... They bought a combined addy n grout, which i told them to take back lol!
    5. Yup, wet area (part of it anyway)

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    Beanz - I think from the sound of it you may be heading for problems not just with the thickness of the plywood, the possibility of joint movement in wet areas etc. Have a look at your price and see if it is worth the future aggravation because you will be responsible and no manufacturer will back you up. You'll sleep better knowing you had no doubts about that job by doing it the way you want it done. What extra will it cost to do it your way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timeless john View Post
    Beanz - I think from the sound of it you may be heading for problems not just with the thickness of the plywood, the possibility of joint movement in wet areas etc. Have a look at your price and see if it is worth the future aggravation because you will be responsible and no manufacturer will back you up. You'll sleep better knowing you had no doubts about that job by doing it the way you want it done. What extra will it cost to do it your way?
    Yeah i figured as much to be honest. Going to have to have a good chat with the customer, as i'm already regretting saying i'd even do the job.. He wants it done as cheaply as possible, as he's only planning on staying there for another couple of years; but at the same time, i'm just starting out, and i don't want to have shoddy work assossiated with my name.

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    A good job will add value to his property! With the right preparation his work will carry manufacturers guarantees. Enjoyed the chat - Cheers.

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    cant you convince him to overboard it with plasterboard quite cheap :Pete

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    hi if you cant do it right (so you can garatee it) walk away no job copares to your reputation

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    Got to agree with Pete, overboard with plasterboard
    "Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes"

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    The only problem with over-boarding is i don't think there is enough room for fixing the toilet flushing handle (probably not the correct term lol), but i will double check, as i think that would be the easiest option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanz View Post
    The only problem with over-boarding is i don't think there is enough room for fixing the toilet flushing handle (probably not the correct term lol), but i will double check, as i think that would be the easiest option.
    you can get extended handles quite cheap as well lol a lot cheaper in the longrun :Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjc View Post
    you can get extended handles quite cheap as well lol a lot cheaper in the longrun :Pete
    Haha! I know absolutely nothing about Plumbing, picking up little bits here and there, so that's good to know.

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