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    Default concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    Hi all about to quote on a job which is a 24m2 kitchen floor( concrete )
    One quote with undertile heating & insulation boards & one without.
    If i use r/s/flexi adhesive to bed the insulation boards & again over the undertile heating for the tiles, will this be sufficient enough? Would i need to consider an uncoupling membrane?
    If its just tiles straight down with rapid set, would i also need to uncouple?
    Tiles will prob be porcelain or ceramic.
    Many thanks,

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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    Needs to be flexi with or without insulation boards...

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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    Even without undertile heating?

    No uncoupling material needed either then?

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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    Quote Originally Posted by peegee tips View Post
    Even without undertile heating?

    No uncoupling material needed either then?
    If porcelain tiles, you will need a flexy adhesive (polymer modified). If normal ceramic on unheated tiles you will be ok with a standard adhesive. Decoupling membranes are not required in this case either unless you think there may be movement that needs addressing.
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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    U could use slc over the ufh if u dont fancy tiling straight over the ufh, this will protact the cables.

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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    Cool so...

    Boards+heating+tiles = r/s/f & flexi grout ( ceramic & porcelain )
    Straight to concrete = normal r/s unless its porcelain.

    Just that i have two conflicting opinions.

    Decided not to self level, trying to keep the height down a as much as possible. I always use a plastic trowel over heating.

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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    I was just going off no insulation and with insulation and ufh....


    If no ufh then rapid set will do if it is suitable for porcelain...

    so you got it right..

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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    Quote Originally Posted by peegee tips View Post
    Cool so...

    Boards+heating+tiles = r/s/f & flexi grout ( ceramic & porcelain )
    Straight to concrete = normal r/s unless its porcelain.

    Just that i have two conflicting opinions.

    Decided not to self level, trying to keep the height down a as much as possible. I always use a plastic trowel over heating.
    Don't see why slc should add much height, you only level to the top of the cables, well I do anyway.
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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    Speak to Matt manufactor as some say to cover cables with SL some say tile straight onto with RSF

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    Default Re: concrete floor, insulation boards & heating.

    Excellent.....cheers.......

    As for the self levelling,Its nice to save the customer the extra expense when i can tile straight onto the heating wire.....i know we're only talking a couple of mm.......but saves money & my time especially over 24m2.

    Thanks anyway.

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