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    Have started to grout my kitchen floor with mapei ultracolor plus in beige - mixed to correct ratio but when dry the grout is nearer to an off white colour and is very patchy - what is the likely cause of this - also having trouble getting rid of haze from tile surface (glazed porcelain) - any advice appreciated.

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    Talk us through your mixing and washing off process...how long did you leave it before washing off and how much water did you use....did you use a scotch pad or just a sponge..?

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    Mixed by hand using measuring jug for water and scales for the powder - left it 25 -30 minutes before washing off using a sponge that had very little water - however, went back again after about 90 mins to try and get the haze off the tiles and used a smaller scourer type sponge which was quite wet and this may have got onto the grout line.

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    Mapei recommend mechanically mixing Ultracolor plus, also did you let it slake for about 3 mins before mixing again prior to grouting?
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    what mix did you use water to powder?If its not changed by tomoz,i suggest you take it out and do it again to the spec on the bag m8...i think you have had too weak a mix for the colour to come through...imo.
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    May have left it a bit to long, an hour and half is a long time for the haze. Mapei is a rapid grout.
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    Default Re: mapei ultracolor plus

    whats probably happened is when you have re-wet the grout you have brought polymers to the surface causing this patchy effect......rake out the bad bits and re-do.....or if it is too bad re-do the whole lot..

    Next time don't leave it that long..5 mins or so max..work in small sections and use a scotch pad and sponge to clean, 2 wipes is usually sufficent...once washed leave to dry..do not re-wet....polish off once dry..

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    I mixed 1 kg with 200 mls of water - I did leave it for 3 mins before mixing again prior to grouting - I'll try the rest of the kitchen tomorrow using your suggestions and advice - when should I be polishing off Dave - how long before it's dry? - also what's the best way to get the old grout out and how much do I need to get out to ensure that the next lot of grout will be O.K. Whats the best way to get the haze off the bit that I've done (I actually grouted on Wednesday so has been down about a day and a half)

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    GROUT RAKE ,FEIN MULTI MASTER OR SIMILAR.GROU then rub grout line and if you think its dry enough.ie comes away flaky when rubbed then use sponge in a swirling motion and leave until a haze forms then use sponge damp not wet and wipe in long lines across the grout lines at an angle and you will be fine.Any haze then wipe with a dry towel to polish off.

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    Just work clean all the time and fresh water go'es a long way
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    Default Re: mapei ultracolor plus

    Iv'e bought some Mapei ultracolour for a wetroom, I usually use Dunlop or bal and just add water whilst mixing by hand to my desired consistency, I am taking it for granted that this method is also ok with the Mapei or is the method different for this type of grout?

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    Default Re: mapei ultracolor plus

    If it is Ultracolor Plus then you need to follow the instructions on the bag carefully. It is a fast setting grout whcih gives excellent results if used correctly.
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    I meant add grout to water in my earlier reply, read the instructions for the Mapei grout and it says to mix the whole box to a certain measurment of water with a mechanical mixer, glad this post came up, because I would have overlooked this, will be grouting towards next weekend.

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    Grouted with the mapei today, found I had to put a little more water than the reccomended 1 litre in the instructions as it was totaly unworkable at that consistency, only about 100ml though, good product, easier to work with than bal flexible which I find goes everywhere but where you want it on the wall. Lol

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    Default Re: mapei ultracolor plus

    used ultracolour plus down at westfeild and had a few early problems with it but as the other guys have said

    mix with whisk
    leave to stand remix after 3 min
    work small area at a time
    beware of other factors that alter setting time ie tile type, heat,etc..
    clean cold water with spongne/ washboy to wash off
    change water often and clean out water bucket and spongne

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    Have had the same problem mate
    I have previously always used mapei grout ( still trust their adhesive )
    LAST YEAR : used beige on a customers bathroom, followed mixing instructions to letter ( was very experienced with the make ) : colour a lot darker than sample.

    So spent four days with a fein taking out all grout at my own cost ( because customer was not happy with it ) RE - grouted in PCI Bahama Beige ( customer choice )

    Have had many similar problems with all Mapei colours except for white

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    Oh Leatherface what a bummer, I have only done one regrout with a fein, ended up like a flour grader, refuse point blank to do any regrouting, horrible messy job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bathroomboy View Post
    Oh Leatherface what a bummer, I have only done one regrout with a fein, ended up like a flour grader, refuse point blank to do any regrouting, horrible messy job.
    this re-grout was at my cost, because grout did not match colour sample
    Customer was really being a pain, but because colour was not same I removed old and re-grouted.
    I lost a lot of money on job and only just broke even.
    have switched to granfix grout now. Still use mapei adhesives

    I followed water and mixing instructions to the letter

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