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    just completed my first tiling diy project , 600x300 procelain floor tiles (30sqm) using bal rapidset
    about to startr tiling the walls of my downstairs toilet with 400x200 cereamic tiles
    i bought bal white star for the job but i am starting to wonder after looking on here if the tiles are too big for tubbed gear
    the reason i got the tub gear was that when mixing the rapidset for the floor , i mixed it until the addy slowly slipped off the trowel , but it seemed to me that a wall tile would slowly slip down the wall until it sets

    i realise that i could tile upwards using the tiles below as support , but arnt you supposed to start in the middle of the wall and work out both ways?
    any help/advise would be greatly appreciated
    regards
    Mark

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    centre your walls,make a marking out stick (staff) = a length of wood lay your tiles along the length putting your spacers in between,then make marks on the wood at both sides of each tile,remove the tiles and there you have your staff,mark from the centre down,to your last full tile,then nail battens along that mark,then set your walls out horozontally and start tiling,personally i would have used a powdered addy mate.Hope i have explained this so you can understand it

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    so i batten horizontaly at every tile row , or you mean one batten at bottom row/second last bottom?

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    so i batten horizontaly at every tile row , or you mean one batten at bottom row/second last bottom?

    yes mate,it would be far easier for you if you fixed a batten to the wall at the bottom height of your last full tile,that way you can tile to ceiling height,then when addy is set just take the batten away and put in your cut tiles

    sorry i am not very good at explaining things in writing

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    just use 1 batton at the bottom mate. check the drying time of the addy, once the dry time has past remove batton and tile the bottom half of the wall.
    life is like a box of choclates nobody likes the coffee one

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    cheers for the responses

    think i will return the white star and get some bagged
    spf maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by destix View Post
    just completed my first tiling diy project , 600x300 procelain floor tiles (30sqm) using bal rapidset
    about to startr tiling the walls of my downstairs toilet with 400x200 cereamic tiles
    i bought bal white star for the job but i am starting to wonder after looking on here if the tiles are too big for tubbed gear
    the reason i got the tub gear was that when mixing the rapidset for the floor , i mixed it until the addy slowly slipped off the trowel , but it seemed to me that a wall tile would slowly slip down the wall until it sets

    i realise that i could tile upwards using the tiles below as support , but arnt you supposed to start in the middle of the wall and work out both ways?
    any help/advise would be greatly appreciated
    regards
    Mark
    Did it slip, or do you believe it would slip? Modern adhesives meant for wall tiling are often what's called highly tixotropical, which means they flow fairly easily when disturbed, but become stiff to the consistency when left alone. That translates into little or no slippage. In fact, most of those are actually more effective when mixed to a more paste like consistency, as opposed to a rather stiff consistency.

    If you look at BAL Adhesives - Products - single part flexible, notice the "T" in the bit that says:
    C2TE Tile Adhesive for Walls and Floors

    The T stands for tixotropical. 20x40 ceramics will probably "hang" when fixed using a good T classed adhesive. I've fixed larger tiles than that without having had slippage, but it depends on the adhesive.

    Otherwise, just use battens.

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