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Discuss Advice please lads,,, in the Tile Adhesive, Grout and Substrate Preparation at TilersForums; hi all,, ive got to prepare floor and supply materials to have my kitchen floor tiled, all i have so far is the tiles,,300x300,dark slate effect, they are to be ...
          
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    Default Advice please lads,,,

    hi all,,
    ive got to prepare floor and supply materials to have my kitchen floor tiled,
    all i have so far is the tiles,,300x300,dark slate effect,
    they are to be laid upon a suspended wooden floor.
    ive been told i need to ply this 1st,,
    being a dumb old sparky i need advice as to what to do please,,
    depth of ply,any other prep needed,,type of adhesive,grout etc,,
    thanks in advance

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    Default Re: Advice please lads,,,

    Can you give us a little more details on the floor....when you say suspended , do you mean floating floor ? or battened etc.....

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    Default Re: Advice please lads,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Can you give us a little more details on the floor....when you say suspended , do you mean floating floor ? or battened etc.....
    thanks for taking time dave,,
    its a 1950s type house with ground floor made up of floorboards on floorjoists,,,pretty solid,,no movement and floorboards in good nick,,
    over to you lads
    thanks so much

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    Personally i prefer not to tile directly to floor boards ( I over board ) but if the floor is deflection free and the boards are in good nick and clean then you can tile directly to them with a 2 part highly elastomeric adhesive....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Personally i prefer not to tile directly to floor boards ( I over board ) but if the floor is deflection free and the boards are in good nick and clean then you can tile directly to them with a 2 part highly elastomeric adhesive....
    as you well know lads being a sparky i know b####r all about floor tiling,,

    im aware it needs over boarding,,
    but with what size and type of ply?
    will this then need to be sealed? if so with what?
    then what make and type of adhesive,grout ?
    will the tiles then need sealing?

    the area to be covered is 15sq mtrs so i could do with amounts and best materials to get,,please please

    see boys im rubbish
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    Default Re: Advice please lads,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by bobandsmiffy View Post
    as you well know lads being a sparky i know b####r all about floor tiling,,

    im aware it needs over boarding,,
    but with what size and type of ply?
    will this then need to be sealed? if so with what?
    then what make and type of adhesive,grout ?
    will the tiles then need sealing?

    see boys im rubbish
    If the floor is bouncy then you must overboard with plywood...minimum 15mm to use standard flexi adhesives. The ply must be sealed on the back and edges before screwing down at 300mm centres. If the floor is solid then you can tile onto it directly with 2 part flexible, after the boards have been primed with acrylic primer...Flexible grout is a must in either case...Gaz

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazTech View Post
    If the floor is bouncy then you must overboard with plywood...minimum 15mm to use standard flexi adhesives. The ply must be sealed on the back and edges before screwing down at 300mm centres. If the floor is solid then you can tile onto it directly with 2 part flexible, after the boards have been primed with acrylic primer...Flexible grout is a must in either case...Gaz
    thanks gaz,,
    would you be kind enough to tell me recomended materials and amount to purchase, of adhesives,grout,sealant etc
    im covering 15sq mtrs,
    sorry to be a pain lads

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    Default Re: Advice please lads,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by bobandsmiffy View Post
    as you well know lads being a sparky i know b####r all about floor tiling,,

    im aware it needs over boarding,,
    but with what size and type of ply?
    will this then need to be sealed? if so with what?
    then what make and type of adhesive,grout ?
    will the tiles then need sealing?

    the area to be covered is 15sq mtrs so i could do with amounts and best materials to get,,please please

    see boys im rubbish

    That will depend on what tile you have chosen, if ceramic then no .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobandsmiffy View Post
    thanks gaz,,
    would you be kind enough to tell me recomended materials and amount to purchase, of adhesives,grout,sealant etc
    im covering 15sq mtrs,
    sorry to be a pain lads
    Ok boys...Prime neat onto wood with this quantity 1 x 2.5 litre..make sure the boards are solid as a rock.


    Then tile with this x 4 bags and 4 bottles


    Finally grout with these




    2x 3.5kg...chose your colour...and include this


    Improves grout....1 bottle mixed 1 to 1 with water

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    Default Re: Advice please lads,,,

    gaz i didnt think you need to prime when using fast flex

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    gaz i didnt think you need to prime when using fast flex
    Directly onto floor boards Gary yes you do. Its plywood that needs no primer..

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    Default Re: Advice please lads,,,

    Roughly £350 FOR MATERIALS.

    Oh......and whatever for Ply

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazTech View Post
    Ok boys...Prime neat onto wood with this quantity 1 x 2.5 litre..make sure the boards are solid as a rock.


    Then tile with this x 4 bags and 4 bottles


    Finally grout with these




    2x 3.5kg...chose your colour...and include this


    Improves grout....1 bottle mixed 1 to 1 with water

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    Default Re: Advice please lads,,,

    Notwithstanding that these guys are all great fellows, you should never put tile onto a single layer of subfloor.
    You need 2 layers plywood, a minimum of 1 1/8 inch thick and this would be on min. 2X10 joists on 16 inch centres with the joists being 12 to 14 ft long, with crossblocking between the joists.
    I would still use the flexible thinset and I would prime the plywood.

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