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I was on a job this week,and used Bal green adhesive,as supplied by the customer. I have used it before and it seems pretty good. What I would like to know is what is the differance between Bal blue and Bal green....apart from the price! Also, on the subject of price...the customer supplied all the tiles adhesive and grout bought from Topps tiles in Falkirk. I know that there is a differance if I bought from them at trade prices...but £27 /tub for Bal green......thats taking the pi**!
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Have a check on here mate: Products Menu
Will tell you everything you need to know, such as what adhesive is suitable for what area.
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You should be able to get BAL Green Star for at least half that for trade.
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[quote=theplumber;36020]I was on a job this week,and used Bal green adhesive,as supplied by the customer. I have used it before and it seems pretty good. What I would like to know is what is the differance between Bal blue and Bal green....apart from the price! Also, on the subject of price...the customer supplied all the tiles adhesive and grout bought from Topps tiles in Falkirk. I know that there is a differance if I bought from them at trade prices...but £27 /tub for Bal green......thats taking the ****![/quote]
BAL Green Star
[IMG]http://www.bal-adhesives.co.uk/bal/bal_products/images/greenstar.jpg[/IMG] A white, ready-mixed ceramic wall tile adhesive suitable for use in interior dry and intermittently wet service conditions, including domestic showers.
Suitable for use on cement:sand rendering, brick/concrete, sheets & boards, tile backer boards, plasterboard, plaster, glazed tile & brick and painted surfaces. Conforms to BS EN 12004, Type D, Class 1T.
BAL Blue Star
[IMG]http://www.bal-adhesives.co.uk/bal/bal_products/images/bluestar.jpg[/IMG] Brilliant white, high quality, non-slip, acrylic-based, ready-mixed organic dispersion adhesive for fixing porous bodied ceramic wall tiles and mosaics to most interior walls.
Suitable for use in dry and intermittently wet conditions.
Suitable for use on cement:sand rendering, clay brick, medium density concrete, sheets & boards, tile backer boards, plasterboard, plaster, glazed tile & brick, painted surfaces. Conforms to BS EN 12004, Type D, Class 1T.
Regarding prices of Green star....youre customer could and maybe should have shopped for better price elsewhere if it was an issue...or you could have got it for them at trade....out of the kindness of your own heart:wub:.....Gaz |
[B]"[I][COLOR=darkgreen]The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten[/COLOR][/I]"[/B]
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£27! Shocking
We do this for £6.99  | | |
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#6 | | Ex Pro Tiler |
[quote=DiamondTraining;36041]£27! Shocking
We do this for £6.99:thumbsup:[/quote]Thanks Kenny lol :tt2:...Gaz |
[B]"[I][COLOR=darkgreen]The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten[/COLOR][/I]"[/B]
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#7 | | Tilers Forums Admin |
green star.... A standard wall type adhesive
blue star.....An acrylic wall adhesive , non slip , slightly flexible....
white star....An acrylic wall adhesive.. non slip , highly flexible , highly water-resistant .. |
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Thanks guys.....as I said I used the Bal green,and it is the cheaper of the two. The customer was given the option of me supplying the grout and adhesive.When they purchased the tiles,they decided to get the grout and adhesive thinking they would get it at a good price as it was a "tile shop".......I am not suggesting that they should have got the adhesive at trade price.....but given the amount that they spent on tiles they did'nt deserve to be ripped off in this way.Although,to be fair maybe Topps are protecting the trade by selling the adhesive at retail. I find that where I live and work...Falkirk area....there are a lot of plumbers in the local area,and some,who judging by the prices that they put in their adverts......[bathroom suite fitted from£95!......] are not legit. Again ,I am not against people charging whatever they want
but these guys give the punters the idea that all jobs are cheap. So thats why I do tiling as well as plumbing,as there is just not enough plumbing work for me to get by on. I hope to be Corgi registered next year,so in the meantime I will continue the full bathroom installations,and supplying the adhesives,etc...with a wee mark up of course! As far as the plumbing materiel goes......the merchant that I use in Cumbernauld sells his boilers and bathroom suites to the public at the same price as the trade....in fact you can,t get near the "trade" counter at the weekend for Mr and Mrs Joe Public. | | |
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pound for pound, white star is probably the best tub gear on the market, personally I wouldn't touch green star, rather pay the extra for the piece of mind, next time you use green star or cheap tub adhesives, just let it cure on your trowel then see how easy it comes of with a damp sponge, try the same with white star or any class aa and see the difference | | |
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Originally Posted by DiamondTraining  £27! Shocking
We do this for £6.99 | What's a delivered price for enough for a delivery? Small pallet or whatever is possible mate? And how many would I get? - Just wondering.
And are you limited at all on where you can sell to do you know? Perhaps just trained deligates, perhaps just your area, or anywhere? Could play on these prices if it was worth you shipping them at that price! Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaz @ Topps Thanks Kenny lol  ...Gaz | Hey, when Topps pay for advertising we'll remove such offers lol. That price is good and the members need to know if they can get it for that price long-term I think. Plus, Kenny doesn't sell tiles nor offer the topps 5-card trick lol 
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I used to try and remember it like this when I first started to work for Topps. Green star in kitchens, blue star for granny smiths shower who lives on her own, white star for the family bathroom. The coverages chage aswell as the adhesive type and so would the grout but you can be safe with some type of basis like that.... or I was anyway.
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BAL Tile and Grout for the bin. That never took off. BAL should hang their head in shame for allowing that product to get in the market at all. tut tut |
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Reason: Automerged last two posts from the same member. Happy tiling. :-)
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#11 | | Tilersforums Black Prince |
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Originally Posted by dhceramics green star.... A standard wall type adhesive
blue star.....An acrylic wall adhesive , none slip..slightly flexible....
white star....An acrylic wall adhesive..highly flexible, non-slip, highly water-resistant .. |
Nice simple way of putting it, unlike Bal's website  Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan I used to try and remember it like this when I first started to work for Topps. Green star in kitchens, blue star for granny smiths shower who lives on her own, white star for the family bathroom. The coverages chage aswell as the adhesive type and so would the grout but you can be safe with some type of basis like that.... or I was anyway. | Nice and simple way to understand the uses of the different types for new guys n gals
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