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what

Is weber spf recommended for porcelain tiles on ditra (floor) and also mapei aquadefense (wall)
 
J

J Sid

wouldn't use spf on ditra only because if it sticks to the orange the ditra will not work as a uncoupling membrane
 
W

what

But does spf actually stick or bond to the ditra plastic waffle not just been held in place when cured by the dovetail effect?
 
W

what

What makes you think that that could be a possibility which is not shared by other brands?
 
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SJPurdy

wouldn't use spf on ditra only because if it sticks to the orange the ditra will not work as a uncoupling membrane
"Immediately after the Schluter -Ditra 25 matting is installed, the tiles can be set using the thin bed method and using a bonding tile adhesive that matches the requirements of the covering." Copied from Ditra 25 data sheet (6.1). Therefore as a modified (SPF) adhesive required for the porcelain tiles Shluter are saying to use it!
 
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J Sid

"Immediately after the Schluter -Ditra 25 matting is installed, the tiles can be set using the thin bed method and using a bonding tile adhesive that matches the requirements of the covering." Copied from Ditra 25 data sheet (6.1). Therefore as a modified (SPF) adhesive required for the porcelain tiles Shluter are saying to use it!
you missed copying
"Using the thin-bed method and following all applicable industry standards, set the tile or stone covering directly on the Schlüter®DITRA 25 in such a way that the tile adhesive becomes mechanically anchored in the square, cut back cavities of the Schlüter®DITRA 25 matting.

notice the mechanically anchored and not chemically fixed.

but if fitting, say gulf stone who recommend a two part adhesive or the TM equivalent as favoured by many members on here, Schluter say you mustn't use these adhesive on ditra due to these adhesives bonding / chemically fixing to the plastic and stopping the product uncoupling.

Also care should be taken if laying tiles "immediately" after laying the ditra. un-cured adhesive sticking the ditra mean tiles can't be lifted without pulling the ditra up.
 
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what

I have spoken to Weber and they say it is suitable for Ditra 25 - does anybody have any experience to the contrary?
Would Weber set plus be a more suitable alternative
 
H

hmtiling

It's my understanding that Weber spf(s1) is fine with ditra and it's s2 adhesives that are too polymer rich and risk bonding to the plastic
 

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