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Just had a letter asking me to re-new my CSCS card !! it appears i might have to sit more tests ! since i have had this card i have had to show it twice !! and both time the jobs have been a total pain to work on with idiots trying to impede my progress !! i thought i would ring them today and see what test and stuff i needed to do ! and i was told there was a twenty minute waiting time , !!!! so now i'am just thinking is it worth bothering anymore ! and just sticking to jobs that i don't need this hassle - on :thumbsup: what do you guys do or make of this scheme to flees-us of yet more of our hard earned money ?
 

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its not going to go away and its only going to get harder to get qualified as all the loop holes are exposed and closed. there is always a way to make Joe public change there ways, how many of us will have major electrical work done on our house without that bit of paper to say it was done correctly. It will be the same for all trades in the end and i am happy about that.

I hope your right mate....I really do......I just think the domestic market is a million miles away from the contract work. You can't really compare what we do to electrics or gas safe.....were unlikely to blow someone's house up tile the bathroom..
 
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I hope your right mate....I really do......I just think the domestic market is a million miles away from the contract work. You can't really compare what we do to electrics or gas safe.....were unlikely to blow someone's house up tile the bathroom..

Its closer than you think, when an insurance company insists that the tradesmen are all qualified, and it is a question they do enquire, to provide public liability to a builder, then that builder is obliged to use tradesmen with a NVQ or his policy is void, it affects you directly, if a householders building / contents policy states that they must use a qualified person, it may be void, so it may directly affect you in the very near future, its not just contractors, as I'm trying to get across to you, it will affect tilers very quickly, and if you're not recognised within the NVQ umbrella you'll get left behind, and will only serve non enquiring clients that are not aware.
take for instance the bathroom fitter, that had to become part p. overnight.
 

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Did I read right on a previous post, that you can actually gain access onto building sites as a Tiler using the green CSCS card?

Yes , thats all i have. However , it runs out in MAY and they don't do them anymore so I'm doing the NVQ 2 thing to get the trade specific card. If I was only doinf domestic I wouldn't bother , but for personal reasons I'm now mostly site work. Contractors now seem to be asking for trade spec cards if they don't know you.

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Well i passed my test in 15 minuets yesterday ! :) ,they were very strict checking me out , they even took my tissues away and gave me clean ones ! , i have a white card saying specialist renderer !! so how do i get it changed to the tiling one as well ??
 
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What after 40 years !!! don't i get grandfathers rights :) well as i said been asked twice in the last 5-6 odd years and nobody has said i cant do there pool , we should have a specialist pool one anyway so we can keep the tilers out of our work :) ?
 
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I hope your right mate....I really do......I just think the domestic market is a million miles away from the contract work. You can't really compare what we do to electrics or gas safe.....were unlikely to blow someone's house up tile the bathroom..
You can if you are an insurance company paying out for water damage and it stats in your policy that any work must be completed by a qualified tradesman.
 
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What after 40 years !!! don't i get grandfathers rights :) well as i said been asked twice in the last 5-6 odd years and nobody has said i cant do there pool , we should have a specialist pool one anyway so we can keep the tilers out of our work :) ?

Your portfolio is your card.
 

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I dont think I will ever get one, only do private and domestic have not done site work for years and to be honest that suits me fine.
 

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You can if you are an insurance company paying out for water damage and it stats in your policy that any work must be completed by a qualified tradesman.

Dose 30 years plus doing the same job not make you a qualified?

I got no intention working for builders, on site, or doing any commercial work......99% of my business comes from recommendation or referals...and not once has any customer asked to see my cscs card or nvq.....if it comes to the piont where you have to have one to work self employed in any trade doing nothing but private work....then I would get them.....l got about 10 years work left in me and I can't see it happening by then....lol
 
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Dose 30 years plus doing the same job not make you a qualified?

I got no intention working for builders, on site, or doing any commercial work......99% of my business comes from recommendation or referals...and not once has any customer asked to see my cscs card or nvq.....if it comes to the piont where you have to have one to work self employed in any trade doing nothing but private work....then I would get them.....l got about 10 years work left in me and I can't see it happening by then....lol
No m8 30 years makes you experienced the bit of paper makes you qualified.
 

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How will the multi traders or general builders cope.

Would they need an nvq in every trade they do to make them qualfied.

On a building site its very much one trade dose one job......in the domestic maket......its very different. Most of us strip walls and prep them. Re- board floors , box in pipes......some even plane doors and plinths....but lets not go there..lol

Great if it could work...might stop some of the builders pretending to be tilers. ...won't hold my breath just yet though. .
 
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I have never read anything from the TTA about this change and they are still encouraging unqualified tilers to apply for membership. If the drive for this isn't coming from the TTA, then where is it being driven from?
 
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I have never read anything from the TTA about this change and they are still encouraging unqualified tilers to apply for membership. If the drive for this isn't coming from the TTA, then where is it being driven from?
I don't think it is a change it is just an industry working towards a qualified workforce. They have a good grip on the commercial side of things it is only a mater of time before they turn there attention to the domestic market.
 

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