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Hi all,

Really need some advice on how to tile my bathroom walls. Currently the walls have small 2-3mm thick ceramic tiles that are stuck on very firmly. I've been advised by the tiller that he can tile directly on top of the tiles. Just wondering what the best options are. I've been researching and it looks like the max weight is around 20kg per square meter on plastered walls. Correct? ... I could rip off all the tiles and have the walls skimmed to make the walls flat and smooth but again I've read that tile over plaster or bonding is not a good idea. What about boarding straight over the tiles with hardibacker with mechanical fixings and tile over that? ... So confused. Any help guys??

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Tiles are 108x108mm or 152x152mm Cameo Topaz - somewhere from 1973 -1980. They will have been fixed with a tubbed ready mixed tile https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/.
Take them all off as they will not take any additional weight and are totally unsuitable to tile on top of.
Remove all loose https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ and top coat plaster, acrylic prime the walls and mechanically fix and board https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ fix new boards ( waterproof if you wish). You could have the walls skimmed instead, wait 3 weeks, and use tiles under 22kg/mt inc https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/.
Oh! - Change your tiler!
 
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vsp89

Tiles are 108x108mm or 152x152mm Cameo Topaz - somewhere from 1973 -1980. They will have been fixed with a tubbed ready mixed tile https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/.
Take them all off as they will not take any additional weight and are totally unsuitable to tile on top of.
Remove all loose https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ and top coat plaster, acrylic prime the walls and mechanically fix and board https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ fix new boards ( waterproof if you wish). You could have the walls skimmed instead, wait 3 weeks, and use tiles under 22kg/mt inc https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/.
Oh! - Change your tiler!

3 weeks before tile. Damn, I've I my got about a week. So your saying remove all tiles then top coat plaster, then board then wait 3 weeks before tile. Almost all the tiles I've looked will be over 20kg per square meter including https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ ...
 
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vsp89

You only need to wait if you plaster not if you board.

Thanks pdc, so bed to remove tiles. Maybe fill out any large holes with bonding and then board straight over followed by tile. Would it be best to board with hardibacker and csn t be mechanically fixed straight to the wall (all walks are made from block)
 
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vsp89

The backing looks like sand/cement....could you confirm this

Hi mate, I'm not 100% sure to be honest, sorry. It's quite crumbly when you take a chisel or screw driver to it. If I scrape a chisel across it it will crumble. So not like a solid cement wall I guess ...
 
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White Room

Hi mate, I'm not 100% sure to be honest, sorry. It's quite crumbly when you take a chisel or screw driver to it. If I scrape a chisel across it it will crumble. So not like a solid cement wall I guess ...

What part of London are you from....
 
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White Room

South Croydon

Probably a tad to far to pop round, All sand/cements can vary in strength depending on the mix.

What tiles are you going to be fixing to the walls and also is it the whole bathroom....
 
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vsp89

Probably a tad to far to pop round, All sand/cements can vary in strength depending on the mix.

What tiles are you going to be fixing to the walls and also is it the whole bathroom....

That's unlucky mate. Thanks for the thought though much appreciated. The tiles are 30x60 ceramic 9mm thick. I worked it out at around 21kg per square meter for the tiles alone so I'm a bit worried about whether or not it's safe. What's the best method of fixing tiles to this kind of wall?
 
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vsp89

That's unlucky mate. Thanks for the thought though much appreciated. The tiles are 30x60 ceramic 9mm thick. I worked it out at around 21kg per square meter for the tiles alone so I'm a bit worried about whether or not it's safe. What's the best method of fixing tiles to this kind of wall?
Oh and yes it's the whole bathroom
 
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White Room

Personally I've done a tad over weight with ceramic, if the backing is sand/cement I would scrape any loose finish plaster and prime the render and tile on that....definitely wouldn't tile on tile though.
 

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