Ditra Heat Or Variopro Systems Anybody Used? - Tile Advice

[Kia tiling]

Got a 20 m2 kitchen ta do wiv UFH on mixed substrates, thinking about trying these new decoupling/UFH systems. Any thoughts, suppliers etc...

 

[Just Rizzle]

just been to a demonstration by schulter systems would deff look at there way so quick and easy

 

[Andy Tiler]

I'm using Thermonet vario pro for all my heating jobs.once you've used it you won't go back to sticky matting or fiddly wires.
Guaranteed....

 

[cam_low]

I nearly bought some andy but they have been picked up by schluter on it. probs not going to be around much longer so im wondering where that leaves any warranties, so i just bought the ditra heat !!!

 

[Lee@emctiles]

@cam_low Are you saying that the variopro might be pulled of the market Cam?

 

[Andy Tiler]

@cam_low Are you saying that the variopro might be pulled of the market Cam?

Dont think so Can't see that happening lee
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[Andy Tiler]

@cam_low Are you saying that the variopro might be pulled of the market Cam?

Thermonet have got the patent for Europe. nice bit of marketing this though

 

[Andy Tiler]

Sorry progress have the patent....

 

[Lee@emctiles]

worth a watch for anyone thinking of using this type of Underfloor Heating, certainly a very good alternative for anyone using ditraheat.

 

[cbmltd]

This setup looks great,
I'm using warmup and its a pain in the neck at times,anyone know the cost and any links to buy. Cheers

 

[Dan]

Sorry progress have the patent....

Who are they?

 

[White Room]

Looks pretty much like Ditra Heat, Dural used there decoupling matting which was exactly like Ditra but a different colur so had to change the design.

 

[Lee@emctiles]

@andy tiler probably know more than me ashes using the Variopro and it was he who first introduced me to it. Yes, there are similarities with Ditra Heat, however Vario pro marketing states "The original revolutionary patented syster combining electric ufh with a uncoupling, crack isolation and waterproofing membrane"

 

[Tile Shop]

This may not be 100% accurate, but the true story between these two goes along the lines of......

A bloke in italy designed it, got it patented, took it to Schluter and they said "That'll never take off" and sent him packing. As soon as his back was turned, Schluter thought "well maybe????" and started to produce it as Ditra Heat.

But after being rejected the little italian fella took his idea to another German company who makes the wires for the Thermonet systems. They bought the idea and got Thermonet to market it as Variopro using the original patent. Following a dispute and a court case or two, Schluter had to change the design of the matting slightly. They had to change something like the shape, height or indent of the noggins that the wire feeds between, just so that the two systems weren't identical.

So although Schluter made it first, the original design belongs to the Thermonet group.

 

[Lee@emctiles]

there is certainly a growing interest, especially if you do some price comparisons