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The NHS are being held to ransom by these cyber hackers , what hope do us mere mortals have if they can infiltrate such a large organisation..

Only last week my parents, both in there 80's were prayed upon by these scum.....lost everything off there computer.....thankfully they don't do online banking ..

Surely there must be a trail somewhere leading back to the culprits..
 
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@Dan can probably explain how they stay undetected better than me! You're right though..... They are absolute scum!
 

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The ransomware isnt traceable (yet) and payment is via bitcoin which also isn't traceable and never will be. They haven't even found who made it yet.

But this attack uses a vulnerability that the American NSA found and kept to themselves. If they'd have informed Microsoft about it so they fixed it before anybody clocked about it, this wouldn't have happened.

Which begs the question; do the Americans really care about security or just abuse it to their advantage ?
 
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The ransomware isnt traceable (yet) and payment is via bitcoin which also isn't traceable and never will be. They haven't even found who made it yet.

But this attack uses a vulnerability that the American NSA found and kept to themselves. If they'd have informed Microsoft about it so they fixed it before anybody clocked about it, this wouldn't have happened.

Which begs the question; do the Americans really care about security or just abuse it to their advantage ?
Sounds like Ed snowdon was right about America
 
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Please remember and add IN MY OPINION I don't want Mr Trump to put a target on my back! ;)
 

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Sounds like Ed snowdon was right about America
He's absolutely right about them and nobody is disagreeing or denying what he claims. Even America. They literally do all the things that you'd assume belong in movies.

They even rerouted cargo on the seas from Chinese tech hardware manufacturers to unlock their master keys before forwarding them onto where they were going so they could monitor traffic. Chips and hard disks and anything they can tap into tech wise.

They're a terrible country when it comes to most things thinking about it. Banking, wars, nukes, tech, guns and crime, pretty much right up there with the plonkers in most areas.

Just keep your tech up to date and that's all we can do as victims really.
 
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Mind you the speed some main contractors pay I think they have been using carrier pigeons for decades
 

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I do all my banking by carrier pigeon . Slower but less susceptible to cyber attack that is unless a fraudster has a hawk called cyber
To be fair your banking is probably the most protected. They usually spot something before you do. Will always give you the money back.

And these people and firms who have had this ransomware haven't been hacked and the people behind it usually can't access the computers and don't need to. They just want the bitcoin cash.

They encrypt the computer they don't take any data off it.

AND IT ALWAYS GAINS ACCESS VIA THE USER CLICKING A LINK IN AN EMAIL!!!!!

SO ALWAYS IGNORE LINKS IN EMAILS AND VISIT THE WEBSITES DIRECTLY INSTEAD.
 
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Matt Bott

Our country is worse than America when it comes to spying on its population GCHQ tracks everything and NSA have full access to it thanks to 9/11
 
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Our country is worse than America when it comes to spying on its population GCHQ tracks everything and NSA have full access to it thanks to 9/11
Do you know what they can spy on me all they like I don't give damn . If you got nothing to hide I doesn't matter.
 
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Matt Bott

Do you know what they can spy on me all they like I don't give damn . If you got nothing to hide I doesn't matter.
I would agree with your point there, however that's the sort of attitude which lets them break laws continually and get away with it. Ok as far as Edward snowden has explained they track everything you do when where you use your bank card to every phone call text message and email you use again your point stands, until someone hacks it and gets all your info steals your identity and money that will make for a morale dilemma but you wouldn't even know it came from there I guess because there not going to publicise that anyway.
 

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