M D HUGHES

Whats the shortest time you've left a newly applied Tanking kit (bal) before tiling on it? They reckon 24hrs but...............?

Concept PHT

24 hrs. Charge a minimum day rate for the job (£120). This ensures that you do the job properly instead of trying to rush it to make your money

M D HUGHES

You've lost me a bit there mate. Putting the kit on should only take a couple of hours, if that, correct me if I'm wrong please. Then I'll have to busy myself on something else for the rest of the day. Go back next day and do the tiling. I have pretty much quoted for the hours I'm gunna put in on site, and not inc. all the back n forth I've been doing, had to take the old ones off, what a nightmare!
I'm reckoning the entire job should be no more than 9 hours all inc.

Concept PHT

Thats even better if you can find something else to do to justify the day rate. But if you can't, then don't try and rush into tiling onto the damp surface to make your money up and get the job done quicker.

Bit of a general response here, but I think it applies to anybody in the same boat.

Leatherface

Hiya

personally I charge for tanking (labour ), a rate that is relevant to the job - if a full bathroom you should be able to apply whilst you are getting on with the rest of the walls - hence around £50 - If just tanking a shower area only then £120 to £150 dependant upon your day rate.

CON5933

I agree, the day rate is justified 'cos you can't really take another job on while your workin for him/her. If you're working with time constraints, setting & curing etc there's not a great deal can be done about it. Great if there are any 'related' jobs you could do while you're there but that would only knock more time off the end of the job anyway so he still might feel he's gettin done.

Leatherface

I use Mapei tanking systems - is dry in 2/3 hours. Have regularily tiled onto straight after second coat - after all it is only a thin coat. If dry in 2/3 hours for second coat then ok to tile

Concept PHT

Thats not bad at all

About to use the Granfix one next week for the first time. Normally use the BAL WP1, but Granfix is half the price. Will let you know.

Leatherface

Usually pay around £37.00 trade - that gives me 5 metres of corner tape, 2 pipe outlet gaskets & small tub of "stuff" ( tub will do around 5 x 600 x 2500 walls )

Concept PHT

38's is what im paying for the granfix stuff. Big dirty 10L of it. And all the goodies with it too.

Leatherface

That's good - will have a chat with my local Granfix supplier for that !!!!
Thanks

M D HUGHES

I think you boys are talking about life once established, the freedom to knock jobs back and charge the entire daily rate even if you've only done 3 hours work, if they take it they take it, excellent. I personally would tell a guy to stick it if he was asking for a full days rate for less than half a days work, but thats just me. I don't charge for what I've not done and wouldn't pay someone for not doing something (I personally don't thinkits up to the client to work out our workload). I think once over 5 hours work I'd probably charge the full day, not for 3hrs though.
The Bal kit is quite expensive (just under £60, from memory) but apparently the best around. It is a pain having to go back tomorrow to tile it, but you gotta take the rough with the smooth at first eh!