Welcome to Tilers Forums Tiling Forum


The UK's Biggest Tiling Forum for DIY and Professional Tilers; find


  •  » Tile Advice for Bathroom Tiles, Kitchen Tiles, Wall Tiles, Floor Tiles
  •  » Customers can Find a Tiler, or Wall and Floor Tilers can Find Customers
  •  » Tiling Tools, Tile Adhesive, Tile Grout and other Tile Products
  •  » Advice and Discussion related to Tiling Courses and Tiling NVQ's
  •  » Professional Tilers can find Business Advice, Discounts, Trade Accounts

DIY and Professional Wall and Floor Tilers are Welcome


Advice from by Tilers, Manufacturers, Distributors and Tile Suppliers


REGISTER HERE FOR FREE


p.s.: Registered members will not see this ad

Results 1 to 14 of 14
Like Tree4Likes
  • 1 Post By Bri
  • 1 Post By jay
  • 1 Post By Bri
  • 1 Post By jay
Discuss Additional tanking required ? in the Tanking & Wetrooms at TilersForums; Hello, This is my first post here. I'm doing a wetroom for the first time and have tried to follow all the advice given here before posting. I've tanked the ...
          
  1. #1
    New TilersForums Contributor duncan_ellison's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Colne, Lancashire
    Posts
    9
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Additional tanking required ?

    Hello,

    This is my first post here.

    I'm doing a wetroom for the first time and have tried to follow all the advice given here before posting.

    I've tanked the floor of the room and up to 100mm around the walls using Contour Bitumen Self Adhesive as advocated by a number of posters here.

    The walls are Aquapanel on stand off battens and glued together using genuine Knauf adhesive as recommended.

    The tiles will be plain white gloss ceramics (from Homebase) held with waterproof latex adhesive.

    I was going to leave it at that, but some posts I saw seem to advocate additional liquid tanking on the Aquapanels. Does anyone think this is really necessary ?

    Duncan

  2. #2
    Bri
    Bri is offline
    BrianOrion Forum stalker


    Bri's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Grantham, Lincolnshire
    Posts
    5,726
    Thanks
    700
    Thanked 1,154 Times in 940
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    Aquapanels do not need extra tanking as you say. What is the brand of the adhesive you mention? Is it ready mixed or a 2 part latex adhesive? Either way a cement based flexible adhesive would be more than sufficient for your job.
    01476 400699
    07812 586737

    brian@bfjtiling.co.uk

  3. #3
    jay
    jay is offline
    TilersForums Trusted Member

    jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Tasmania
    Posts
    8,022
    Thanks
    3,968
    Thanked 1,990 Times in 1,587
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    Last edited by jay; 30-01-2012 at 09:53 AM.

  4. #4
    Bri
    Bri is offline
    BrianOrion Forum stalker


    Bri's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Grantham, Lincolnshire
    Posts
    5,726
    Thanks
    700
    Thanked 1,154 Times in 940
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    I've got a different page here Jay, AQUAPANEL® Cement Board by Knauf USG Systems | products interior en no mention of extra tanking on this one, unless I've missed it. As far as I'm aware (and I have spoken to a technical guy at Knauf) so long as all the boards are joined in the correct manner, it creates the perfect environment for a wet area.
    01476 400699
    07812 586737

    brian@bfjtiling.co.uk

  5. #5
    jay
    jay is offline
    TilersForums Trusted Member

    jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Tasmania
    Posts
    8,022
    Thanks
    3,968
    Thanked 1,990 Times in 1,587
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    This one states its 100% water resistant http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rc...3MV2BVKII5dKgg

  6. #6
    Bri
    Bri is offline
    BrianOrion Forum stalker


    Bri's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Grantham, Lincolnshire
    Posts
    5,726
    Thanks
    700
    Thanked 1,154 Times in 940
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    I've just given Knauf UK a call and they have confirmed that additional tanking is not required providing the boards are jointed using the correct aquapanel joint adhesive.
    jay likes this.
    01476 400699
    07812 586737

    brian@bfjtiling.co.uk

  7. #7
    New TilersForums Contributor duncan_ellison's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Colne, Lancashire
    Posts
    9
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    Hi Guys, Thanks for the quick replies.

    Seems like Jay is looking at a different 'Aquapanel', the one I'm using is an engineered cement board product made by Knauf.

    I gave the tanking membrane company (Contour) a ring and they said that as long as the membrane comes up about 100mm and forms a complete 'tray' there should be no need for additional tanking on the Aquapanels.

    So the consensus seems to be that it should be OK without additional tanking.

    Bri : I've not chosen the tile adhesive yet but it will be a one part mix-it-yourself flexible water resistant variety, not the ready mixed stuff.

    I do have another question about fixing Aquapanels, but I'll start a new thread on that.

    Best ... Duncan

  8. #8
    jay
    jay is offline
    TilersForums Trusted Member

    jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Tasmania
    Posts
    8,022
    Thanks
    3,968
    Thanked 1,990 Times in 1,587
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bri View Post
    I've just given Knauf UK a call and they have confirmed that additional tanking is not required providing the boards are jointed using the correct aquapanel joint adhesive.
    Cant argue with them then its there product looks like i was wrong sorry
    Bri likes this.

  9. #9
    Bri
    Bri is offline
    BrianOrion Forum stalker


    Bri's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Grantham, Lincolnshire
    Posts
    5,726
    Thanks
    700
    Thanked 1,154 Times in 940
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jay View Post
    Cant argue with them then its there product looks like i was wrong sorry
    I'll be honest Jay, the post you put up got me really worried as I've fitted 4 wet rooms in recent months without tanking the boards, that's why I phoned them. I'll get hold of an offcut and see how long it takes for water to pass through it (if it does). If it needed tanking then there isn't really a market for it, because you may as well buy cheaper plaster board and tank that.
    jay likes this.
    01476 400699
    07812 586737

    brian@bfjtiling.co.uk

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Bri For This Useful Post:

    jay (30-01-2012)

  11. #10
    jay
    jay is offline
    TilersForums Trusted Member

    jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Tasmania
    Posts
    8,022
    Thanks
    3,968
    Thanked 1,990 Times in 1,587
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bri View Post
    I'll be honest Jay, the post you put up got me really worried as I've fitted 4 wet rooms in recent months without tanking the boards, that's why I phoned them. I'll get hold of an offcut and see how long it takes for water to pass through it (if it does). If it needed tanking then there isn't really a market for it, because you may as well buy cheaper plaster board and tank that.
    Thanks the other post i thought was a clear answer but when i re read it its prob not clear
    Bri likes this.

  12. #11
    Tilers Forums Arms Member

    Mike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Holyhead, wales
    Posts
    3,290
    Thanks
    272
    Thanked 629 Times in 495
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bri View Post
    I've got a different page here Jay, AQUAPANEL® Cement Board by Knauf USG Systems | products interior en no mention of extra tanking on this one, unless I've missed it. As far as I'm aware (and I have spoken to a technical guy at Knauf) so long as all the boards are joined in the correct manner, it creates the perfect environment for a wet area.
    you mean with tanking tape bri or do you use something else?

  13. #12
    pjc
    pjc is offline
    TilersForums Trusted Member

    pjc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    high wycombe
    Posts
    4,181
    Thanks
    244
    Thanked 688 Times in 537
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    This is why i was telling you to use backerboards Duncan they are waterproof

  14. #13
    Tilers Forums Arms Member Gazebo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Brighton
    Posts
    659
    Thanks
    290
    Thanked 108 Times in 94
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    aquapanel is water resistant, meaning it will not expand or contract, break down or crumble when moisture/water is added to d it.

    It is not waterproof like a wellington boot, hence it is only suitable for timber framed walls, (stud) they then state that the moisture that enters the board can then disperse in the stud cavity.

    if you want waterproof then you need to tank it.

    to be honest aquapanel that is fixed with correct screws and jointed correctly will suffice in most situations.

    if you want real peace of mind then use marmox/wedi and joint it.

    or plasterboard and a liquid membrane.

    ps. be sure not to breath in when cutting aquapanel.......

  15. #14
    New TilersForums Contributor timothy brain's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    2
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Re: Additional tanking required ?

    wedi board does not need tanking wich eliminates your problem and leaves you with a water proof instalation,only the joints need to be sealed this is a quick and easy solution.

Similar Threads

  1. Marmox install - tanking required?
    By bob320 in forum Tanking & Wetrooms
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 31-03-2011, 01:28 AM
  2. Tiler in Stoke on Trent Required | Bathroom Job (with tanking) | Must be experienced
    By Dan in forum I'm Looking for a Wall and Floor Tiler
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 28-03-2011, 03:05 PM
  3. Is tanking required with a domestic shower?
    By quackfly in forum Tanking & Wetrooms
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 23-06-2009, 06:29 PM
  4. Is bonding agent still required after tanking?
    By essexsi in forum Tile Adhesive, Grout and Substrate Preparation
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-05-2009, 07:54 AM

Visitors found this page by searching for:

Nobody landed on this page from a search engine, yet!

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Tilers Forums is the UK's largest wall and floor tiling forum. Advice is provided free of charge to all users. Tilers Forums does not take responsibility for any loss or damage caused due to following advice found on this forum. All wall and floor tiling should be carried out by a qualified wall and floor tiler. Views expressed on this forum are of the users and not Tilers Forums. Views expressed on this tiling forum are of the contributor only and not the forum as a whole. Not all views should be taken as fact but simply the opinion of the person posting. Readers are reminded to seek professional advice before undertaking any wall and floor tiling project.

Tilers Forums is a Trading Style of Untold Developments Ltd. Search Engine Optimisation, Web Development and Online Marketing for the UK.
DMCA.com
[Output: 127.80 Kb. compressed to 114.23 Kb. by saving 13.57 Kb. (10.62%)]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28