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    Default effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    Just wondered if anyone knew the reason for keeping silicone away from Impey membrane kits?

    Only ask as I have found them in contact with each other when removing a wetroom floor which had failed.

    Also in areas it looked as though grout had eaten away the membrane, why is this? Which type of grout causes this?

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    Default Re: effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    The only reason I can think of with the silicone is because it tells you on the Impey membrane itself.
    As for he grout ????
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    Default Re: effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    I've never understood it myself. And now you say it appears as though it's allegic to grout?? Both of which are main ingredients of a bathroom/wetroom. It's like a car being afraid of roads

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    Default Re: effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/2036...0-am-956k?da=y

    interesting read


    NOTE: Do not use polyurethane or epoxy-based adhesive or grout.
    Do not use a ready mixed adhesive.


    Note: Under no circumstances, allow the solvent cement to contact
    with to the membrane.


    Note: Under no circumstances us silicone sealant on the Tilesafe
    membrane.
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    Default Re: effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    I know that your not supposed to use it and that it clearly states not to, I was just wondering what the adverse efferct its suposed to have is? Its just when removing a wet room floor Ive noticed that who ever fit it has used silicone in some areas, and I cant see any damage to membrane and its been down 2years +.

    Cheers for pointing the epoxy bit out jay. I read that piece too and completely missed it. lol¬!

    Another question I have, when buying the tanking kits you get a tube of jointing compound and block of putty. Does anyone know of anywhere to buy additional tubes or putty? Or any alternatives?

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    Default Re: effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    When I used to sell UFH, the blue thermal boards couldn't get touched by some adhesives and certainly not most primers. The reason for that was down to the fact that it sort of melted the surface and weakened compression strength.

    Perhaps something similar with this?
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    Default Re: effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    Aye thats what I was expecting, that it had dissolved membrane, but it all seemed cool. Ripped out now so dont really matter. Just my curious mind. lol

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    Default Re: effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    The sealant supplied by Impey is Butyle rubber based. I can only assume that normal silicon reacts with the membrane.

    You may want to give this lot a call to see if they can/will supply just the putty?

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    Default Re: effects of silicone and grout on tanking membranes

    apologies being a bit late with a reply to this one.
    One reason for not putting silicone sealants in contact with the tilesafe membrane is that due to it being bitumen based the silicone will soften / melt it causing it to be drawn into the silicone and causing discolouration of the silicone
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