Welcome to Tilers Forums Tiling Forum


The UK's Biggest Tiling Forum for DIY and Professional Tilers; find


  •  » Tile Advice for Bathroom Tiles, Kitchen Tiles, Wall Tiles, Floor Tiles
  •  » Customers can Find a Tiler, or Wall and Floor Tilers can Find Customers
  •  » Tiling Tools, Tile Adhesive, Tile Grout and other Tile Products
  •  » Advice and Discussion related to Tiling Courses and Tiling NVQ's
  •  » Professional Tilers can find Business Advice, Discounts, Trade Accounts

DIY and Professional Wall and Floor Tilers are Welcome


Advice from by Tilers, Manufacturers, Distributors and Tile Suppliers


REGISTER HERE FOR FREE


p.s.: Registered members will not see this ad

Results 1 to 12 of 12
Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By David Dudley
Discuss Tanking Niches in the Tanking & Wetrooms at TilersForums; Hi. New forum member here, just discovered the forum only a few weeks ago. Have seen some great threads of other projects on the go and also learnt alot in ...
          
  1. #1
    New TilersForums Contributor David Dudley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Tanking Niches

    Hi.

    New forum member here, just discovered the forum only a few weeks ago. Have seen some great threads of other projects on the go and also learnt alot in the process.

    I have quite a large project on the go at the min renovating a 5 bed hosue (planned over a few years).
    The house was built in the 70's and is completely original from when it was built.

    I have recently re-boarded one of the en-suite bathrooms, using moisture resistant plasterboard and plastered the ceiling, and the upper quarter of the walls (for painting). We are installing an offset corner bath, with mira atom shower bar above, and shower screen. The plan is to tile around the bath area up to the painted level.
    I really want to make sure that the whole area is protected from leaks so I intend to tank the plasterboard that is to be tiled with Mapei WPS.

    My main question is regarding some niches I have installed into the stud wall. The stud was doubled up 3x2, so 6 inches deep and seemed to be a good use of the dead space. I built these using ply and then lined using MR plasterboard. I also built into a slight downslope on the ledge so that water will run out.

    My understanding is that I can tank these using Mapei WPS and Mapeband to fill edges. I will then tile using mosaics.

    Will this be effective in sealing the board and stopping water passing through and into the wall? Any other things that I need to consider?

    Photo attached.

    photo.jpg

    Thanks.
    David.

  2. #2
    Regular TilersForums Contributor davemul's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    442
    Thanks
    63
    Thanked 64 Times in 57
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    Should be fine, I did exactly the same as you in my bathroom thread in my sig.. however I used waterproof marmox boards and not plasterboard.

    Use waterproof tape on all the joints, corners... everywhere!

    Then give a good few coats of mapegum!

    You should be fine with that





    Last edited by davemul; 17-10-2011 at 04:40 PM.
    My DIY wetroom thread.. if you're a bit bored!

    http://www.tilersforums.co.uk/tiling-forum/51004-bathroom-project-work-progress.html

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to davemul For This Useful Post:

    David Dudley (19-10-2011)

  4. #3
    www.tilernewcastle.co.uk


    timeless john's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    North East England
    Posts
    6,412
    Thanks
    3,288
    Thanked 3,374 Times in 2,120
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    As per Davemul - I'd have gone the way of tile backer boards over MR plasterboard.

    find us : www.tilernewcastle.co.uk visit us : www.timelesstilingsolutions.com

    ' CREATING TIMELESS WALLS & FLOORS - CREATING TIMELESS WALLS & FLOORS '

  5. #4
    TilersForums Trusted Member

    Stewart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Dunfermline.
    Posts
    4,747
    Thanks
    437
    Thanked 1,203 Times in 965
    Posts

    Default

    I use Marmox backer board for mine...


    Created on iPhone.....
    "The early bird catches the worm.... but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese"

  6. #5
    New TilersForums Contributor David Dudley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    Thanks for the comments guys. The niches were a last minute idea and I already had the plasterboard.

    Is this a problem or will the tanking solution seal it?

  7. #6
    New TilersForums Contributor David Dudley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    Just had another thought. Would it be a good idea to silicone all the joints before I tape and coat with mapegum?
    There are quite a few gaps (2-3mm wide) that need sealing where the boards meet.

    I could replace the board with tile backer or marmox if really necessary but that would be a hassle I don't really need and the tile weight isn't going to be an issue so I'm not sure if I would gain anything.

    If the mapegum is effective at waterproofing plasterboard then I guess the board doesn't actually matter for such a small niche?

    My only concern is water proofing it all as the bathroom is directly over a living room.

    My plan is to:
    Silicone round the boards,
    mapegum wps
    tape all joins
    then re-coat with mapegum
    tile using bagged adhesive
    then silicone all corners

    Is this the best way to go?
    timeless john likes this.

  8. #7
    Tilers Forums Arms Member Gazebo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Brighton
    Posts
    659
    Thanks
    290
    Thanked 108 Times in 94
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    Hi David

    I use marmox boards also but the way you have suggested should be fine, any yes silicone the board joints 1st as an extra precaution.


    Good luck
    Gary
    plumbingsolutions@ntlworld.com

  9. #8
    Regular TilersForums Contributor davemul's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    442
    Thanks
    63
    Thanked 64 Times in 57
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    As already said, yep silicone too. I did this also. Silicone the screw heads and around where they penetrate the boards too
    Last edited by davemul; 18-10-2011 at 07:28 AM.
    My DIY wetroom thread.. if you're a bit bored!

    http://www.tilersforums.co.uk/tiling-forum/51004-bathroom-project-work-progress.html

  10. #9
    New TilersForums Contributor David Dudley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    Thanks alot guys. Does the tanking solution stick to the silicone ok?
    Should I be using acrylci silicone or normal silicone?

    Thanks again.

  11. #10
    Regular TilersForums Contributor davemul's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    442
    Thanks
    63
    Thanked 64 Times in 57
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    My DIY wetroom thread.. if you're a bit bored!

    http://www.tilersforums.co.uk/tiling-forum/51004-bathroom-project-work-progress.html

  12. #11
    TilersForums Contributor
    PHG Wetrooms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    County Durham
    Posts
    97
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 32 Times in 27
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    Quote Originally Posted by David Dudley View Post
    Thanks alot guys. Does the tanking solution stick to the silicone ok?
    Should I be using acrylci silicone or normal silicone?

    Thanks again.
    Nothing much sticks to silicone (Acyrlic and silicone are two different materials)

    Personally do not see the point in silicone in the joints, if water gets through the membrane then it can go through the boards as they are only water resistant not waterproof.
    Your original plan of Mapeband (or Dural's DURABASE Flex sealing tape) and Mapegum is perfect for the job

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to PHG Wetrooms For This Useful Post:

    David Dudley (19-10-2011)

  14. #12
    New TilersForums Contributor David Dudley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 0 Times in 0
    Posts

    Default Re: Tanking Niches

    Thanks PHG.

    Would the ditra matting be a better solution altogether? I understand this is applied with the same flexible adhesive used to stick the tiles?

    Also (as posted in another thread) I have an 18mm marine ply floor. I laid this thinking it was the right thing to do. Unfortunately didn't seal it first.
    I was thinking of using the ditra uncoupling membrane with this? Would that solve any issues with the ply? I am only waterproofing the floor to make it leak proof/splash proof as its a bath with shower above and not a dedicated wetroom?

    Thanks again.

Similar Threads

  1. Share pictures of niches in showers
    By Rob Z in forum Tiling Forum
    Replies: 78
    Last Post: 25-03-2012, 09:34 PM
  2. Help!: LED's for 2 shower niches
    By jimie in forum Tiling Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-02-2011, 07:47 PM
  3. wall tanking vs floor tanking question
    By amcm2 in forum Tanking & Wetrooms
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 22-03-2010, 12:12 PM
  4. Tanking above tiles without tanking
    By cam_low in forum Tanking & Wetrooms
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-08-2008, 07:05 PM

Visitors found this page by searching for:

tanking standard plasterboard

waterproofing marmox board

niches plasterboard

tanking a bathroom

mapegum tape silicone

mapei silicone before mapegum

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Tilers Forums is the UK's largest wall and floor tiling forum. Advice is provided free of charge to all users. Tilers Forums does not take responsibility for any loss or damage caused due to following advice found on this forum. All wall and floor tiling should be carried out by a qualified wall and floor tiler. Views expressed on this forum are of the users and not Tilers Forums. Views expressed on this tiling forum are of the contributor only and not the forum as a whole. Not all views should be taken as fact but simply the opinion of the person posting. Readers are reminded to seek professional advice before undertaking any wall and floor tiling project.

Tilers Forums is a Trading Style of Untold Developments Ltd. Search Engine Optimisation, Web Development and Online Marketing for the UK.
DMCA.com
[Output: 112.64 Kb. compressed to 100.80 Kb. by saving 11.84 Kb. (10.51%)]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28