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Discuss Thinking about creating a wetroom in the Tanking & Wetrooms at TilersForums; Hi all, Need to get my bathroom done and thinking of getting a wet room. I think I have decided on what exactly I want but nothing finalised yet. Plan ...
          
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    Hi all,

    Need to get my bathroom done and thinking of getting a wet room. I think I have decided on what exactly I want but nothing finalised yet. Plan to get the Aqua Dec 5 (800x800) and the Tilesafe membrane. Will tank the walls using BAL WP1.

    Got 2 questions for the experts.

    1) I need to fit one of these after I have tanked the wall. It involves drilling the wall and I was just wondering if that compromises the whole tanking altogether. If so what other alternatives do I have to fitting a bar valve mixer other than purchasing something else.

    2) Would the tiling on the above-mentioned tray end up looking like this (using 300x300 tiles) or is there a better way of doing it? The red bit is a 50mm border (not sure if I need that there).

    If you guys need more info please do let me know. Its all just an idea at the moment but lets see where it goes.

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Thank you

    Been lurking for days now. Thought I should post.

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    The tiling would work like that but you might find the two 'falls' nearer the waste outlet to be a little steep. Not too sure what the fall would be there but you're sort of making the shower area smaller if you can't stand on it, if it is a fall of say 50mm over what could be a 50mm area in one part of it. (if that makes any sense at all). If it isn't such a great fall that's probably not a problem and the setout would be sound.

    I'm not too sure what you need the 50mm border for though. WetDecs (tony) is the man to speak to about that one perhaps.

    I'm sure others will be along shortly to answer the other questions and add their views.

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Hi Dan,
    Thanks for your input. Not quite sure what the falls are like on the former as I haven't bought anything yet Was just playing around in Photoshop with different tile sizes to see how it would look. The 50mm border was also experimentational to see what sort of cuts I would end up with.
    Checked out the WetDecs website and it has the stuff there so will be ordering from there once I decide what it is that I want to do. Not quite sure if I will be doing this as a DIY project or not. Would love to but don't have the time at the moment. Would love to pay someone to do it but budget is tight *sigh.
    Pics will be up once I start ripping the old stuff out which wont be until end of June Till then time for more planning.

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Magz

    You can get the shower brackets from your plumbers merchant much cheaper than the Mira ones. There is one called 'shower pl8' that i use and is more than 50% cheaper than the one you have linked.

    If you cut the tape around the outlets for the shower that should keep it watertight,

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    Hi and welcome
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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Hi Scottley,

    Thanks for that suggestion. Much appreciated I knew there would be someone out here with an alternative

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    you could try turning waste around on a 45degrees angle might be better to put cuts to walls full tile to front only a suggestion

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Thanks for the suggestion Jay.

    Let me see how that would end up like

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    if your grout joints meet the points of the waste you may not have to split or envelope tiles

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Depending on your setup you might find one of these from Screwfix a cheaper option.



    Instructions and dimensions

    Build it into your wall (partition) before tanking, then tank around it.
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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronski View Post
    Depending on your setup you might find one of these from Screwfix a cheaper option.



    Instructions and dimensions

    Build it into your wall (partition) before tanking, then tank around it.
    Thats very similar to the shower pl8 one

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Ahhh more options Thanks guys.

    Have another question but this time its regarding preparation of the floor. I read quite a bit on the forums and know what is required but have some confusion to sort out.

    So if I lay down 18mm WBP plywood on the joists and screw it down at 300mm centres, I still need another 4mm to get in level with the Aqua Dec which is 22mm thick. I thought I will get the 4mm Dukkaboard and just use a cement based adhesive to lay it down. Can I get away with just using an adhesive and no screws?

    Secondly, the Dukkaboard website says to use a minimum of 10mm for floor. Would using 4mm be a problem. Oh & how much does the adhesive technically add to the height if any?

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    Hi m8
    am away till Thursday will take a look then screen not big enough on this thing

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Quote Originally Posted by magz View Post
    Ahhh more options Thanks guys.

    Have another question but this time its regarding preparation of the floor. I read quite a bit on the forums and know what is required but have some confusion to sort out.

    So if I lay down 18mm WBP plywood on the joists and screw it down at 300mm centres, I still need another 4mm to get in level with the Aqua Dec which is 22mm thick. I thought I will get the 4mm Dukkaboard and just use a cement based adhesive to lay it down. Can I get away with just using an adhesive and no screws?

    Secondly, the Dukkaboard website says to use a minimum of 10mm for floor. Would using 4mm be a problem. Oh & how much does the adhesive technically add to the height if any?
    Fget Duckaboard increase thickness of ply to the max you can go will increase stability and 18mm ply isnt the best choice. Remember also that aqua dec instructions recomend under boarding............................

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    Default Re: Thinking about creating a wetroom

    Hey wetdecs,

    Thanks for getting back to me. Have been reading your posts re. the tilesafe membrane vs durabase and am inclined to use the durabase now especially if I am using it directly on the plywood. Initially felt its too much work but if does a better job then will go for it.

    Will take your point about using thicker ply. Need to get rid of the current tiles to see what lies beneath to get a better idea.

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    Tilesafe is not a bad product but not the easiest to use as it is a little like fly paper it will stick to anything making it difficult to handle sometimes. If you couple this with the fact it has a weight limit and is expensive when compared to products that can do the job as well and in some cases better it can be deduced it relies a little on the Impey marketing machine.

    We find a number of professionals love the stuff and we get through it but predominantly the poly membranes Dura-wp and Dura-ci lead because of their versatility and instalation ease.


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    Thanks for your time Wetdecs.

    Will get in touch to order the stuff I need soon (I hope)

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