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    Default recommendations for backerboards plss

    hi members,
    deciding on tanking of shower area using enclosure

    advise pls on
    1} instead of plaster-use ? pecidur board or wedi or hardibacker
    for walls-?6 or 10 mm
    for floor on which the shower basin lies-?10 mm

    then tanking
    then tiling-will be using marble tiles
    any problem with any of the backerboards above in terms of weight limit

    bought bal flexadhesives from toppstiles( grey one and stone flexible)
    re grout-mapei seems to be cheap 1 kg bags ultracolor grout

    are the above choices ok?//
    any help appreciated pls

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    Yep fine.. just check up on the fittings instructions for each board..

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    Try shopping around for adhesives to se if you can get a better price. HAve tyou got a tilegiant near you?

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    thx for replies
    can anyone pls tell me abt the thickness of wedi/pecidur boards needed for wall /floor pls

    can one recommend which is better board pls(hardi/wedi/pecidur)

    already bought adhesives scottley
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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    Hardi for floors is the hardi 250 which is 6mm and hardi 500 12mm for walls.

    Wedi/pecidur then i would say 10mm minimum for either wall or floor.

    The fixing method is slightly different as hardi is screws straight into the boards on the floor and walls and the others require screws and special washers.

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    thx dave
    re wedi/pecidur boards-where do i get these products and do the shops also sell washers?
    i am in perth/dundee scotland
    anyone know of stockists/cost etc

    as i am also using homelux membrane-is it overkill to use wedi or pecidur
    is it ok to use hardibacker(reading forums -differences of water passing through) or would one recommend the others
    thx

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    You can get Aqau panel from Tile giant in Dundee.. this board will cope with the weight of the marble no probs..

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    hi dave
    is aqaupanel fully water proof(wont let water through) or like hardiebacker(can let water through but wont break down in to mush like ordinary plaster boards)
    can these be used on the floor as well?
    thx

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    id go for wedi board , ctd stock them or visit www.wedi.co.uk for more info

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    For a fully water tight installation then yes it needs tanking..


    Aquapanel - Drywall for Wet Areas


    What happens when water gets behind tiles?

    Traditional backing boards will quickly deteriorate and will need to be replaced.

    Aquapanel retains its strength in damp conditions and can be fully immersed in water with no loss of performance, or tiles.

    Peace of mind for you and your clients - with a 10 year guarantee


    Aquapanel cement board is an extremely durable tile backer providing a solid substrate for wet indoor areas such as bathrooms, shower rooms and wet rooms. Resistant to mould and mildew, Aquapanel will not deteriorate in water. It retains its strength even if fully immersed.
    A purpose designed tile backing board, Aquapanel solves the problems experienced when traditional backing materials get wet. So no more costly call backs to replace rotten or damaged boards. Aquapanel Screws ensure a quick and easy installation with no special tools required. Aquapanel is ready keyed to take tiles up to 50 kg/m2 as soon as the boards are installed.

    Knauf Drywall - Aquapanel - Drywall for Wet Areas

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    thx guys
    so am i right in saying aquapanel/hadiback are products which dont break down but let water through

    whereas wedi/pecidur wont let water through

    EASIEST TO FIND HARDI/AQUA IN B&Q /WICKES
    wedi-will take week to order from ctd
    pecidur 3days acc to tiling shop

    would wedi/pecidur be many times more expensve??
    thinking as i am using homelux tanking-go for aquapanel to tank over and it shouldnt be a problem with heavy stone tiles on any of them
    so many questions-should have just gone with the company who just quoted for getting it done with green plaster
    thx

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    Hardi and Aqua panel will only let water through the joints so these have to be tanked

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    Quote Originally Posted by AstonTiling View Post
    id go for wedi board , ctd stock them or visit www.wedi.co.uk for more info
    l would go for pecidur as i like them lol

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    I LIKE CEMENT BOADS as theyare thermal as well, marmox, wedi

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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    hi guys
    will look at the prices of wedi vs pecidur
    (felt the pecidur-seems very light-will they hold up heavy marble tiles?)
    if prohibitive then gat aquapanel or hardibacker then maybe use pci lastogum then tank with homelux and marble tile

    think problem is too many combinations available and difficult to make up our minds

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjc View Post
    l would go for pecidur as i like them lol

    from now on pete, you and me can be....

    pci pete & wedi eddie....

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiana9n View Post
    hi members,
    deciding on tanking of shower area using enclosure

    advise pls on
    1} instead of plaster-use ? pecidur board or wedi or hardibacker
    for walls-?6 or 10 mm
    for floor on which the shower basin lies-?10 mm

    then tanking
    then tiling-will be using marble tiles
    any problem with any of the backerboards above in terms of weight limit

    bought bal flexadhesives from toppstiles( grey one and stone flexible)
    re grout-mapei seems to be cheap 1 kg bags ultracolor grout

    are the above choices ok?//
    any help appreciated pls

    Hi mate,

    I noticed you said you purchased grey ahdesive. Many people preffer to use a white adhesive for marble as grey can shadow through marble and other lighter stone tiles.

    You might be fine but, I would probs try to exchange for a white one.

    Someone mentioned Tiler Giant to you already, I know they do the aquapanel and they also do the keraquick adhesive in white which would be ideal. if you are worried about water, I agree that a tanking kit would be the best option. You can get them from Mapei or BAL stocked at Tile Giant(mapei) or Topps(BAL)


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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    re the grey adhesive-it will be used to put tanking membrane to the boards
    the white stone adhesive will be used between stone and membrane if that makes sense

    1)also are aquapanel and hardieback boards in same league in terms of water resist,weight of tiling etc??

    2)and is pecidur/wedi boards similar to each other
    in terms of better watere resist capacity but can still hold heavy tiles
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    Default Re: recommendations for backerboards plss

    Sorry bit late on this one.

    When you say marble what is it exactly size etc ?

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