Electric UFH Vario pro - Tile Advice

Tile seller · Jan 22, 2017

One of the advantages of the vario system is that its possible to tile directly onto it without screeding first.
The wires recessed so the trowel wont nick them. Just fill the voids in the mat with addy as you go. Quick, simple and easy.

Italy · Jan 22, 2017

Simons70 said:
I never wait more then 2-3 days to tile onto screed.In Italy is common practice to do the screed by tiler,in this way no excuses if is not flat.I can't see the reason for wait to dry if you fix tile.For wood is another discussion but not for tiles.
IMO better if is not fully dry,in this way is more strong.

what ?, repeat the offending sentence

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Flintstone · Jan 22, 2017

Tile seller said:
One of the advantages of the vario system is that its possible to tile directly onto it without screeding first.
The wires recessed so the trowel wont nick them. Just fill the voids in the mat with addy as you go. Quick, simple and easy.

I know!

Flintstone · Jan 22, 2017

JulianSidney said:
doesn't Schluter do one with insulation built in?

Not sure about that! I think they are going for vario.
So, is it safe to lay the insulation boards over the screed then lay the vario ? Surely the vario can't do its job if there's insulation ?

J Sid · Jan 23, 2017

can't see the point of the uncoupling mat if you put insulation board under it. What do Vario recommend?
and yes Schluter do one with built in insulation.

Flintstone · Jan 23, 2017

I was under the impression and informed by two sources that you had to put a mat down in the form of vario pro, or durabase in order to tile over a screed quickly without the drying time, is that not right?

Flintstone · Jan 23, 2017

Not spoke to vario direct but that's probably next thing To do

J Sid · Jan 23, 2017

if they want ufh and the screed is green then go for it without the board under it. It won't affect the heat up time or running costs to much.
know idea how the Schluter one with insulation compares in price.
Schlüter®-DITRA-HEAT | Function | Schlüter-Systems - http://www.schluter.co.uk/ditra-heat.aspx

Flintstone · Jan 23, 2017

I think the ditra is more expensive Julian, and it's not a high price job, it's about 20sq.
Do you think it's necessary to leave skirting off while the screed dries ?

J Sid · Jan 23, 2017

realistically how long is it going to be from screed going down till you have tiled it ready for skirting? 4 or 5 weeks? Put skirting on.

Italy · Jan 24, 2017

You do not use these products in the uk?
sand cement, premixed and rapid.
after 24 hours, you can lay tiles

Flintstone · Jan 24, 2017

I like Name pronto!
Not sure if that stuff exists here or if eBay would even be suitable for a 20m floor area at 75mm thick. You would need a lot of bags!

Simons70 · Jan 24, 2017

Localtiler said:
I like Name pronto!
Not sure if that stuff exists here or if eBay would even be suitable for a 20m floor area at 75mm thick. You would need a lot of bags!

ARDEX A 35 Ultra Rapid Drying Cement for Internal Screeds Features
• Walkable in 3 hours
• Receives ceramic and natural stone tiles directly after 24 hours
You have to add sand.

Dumbo · Jan 24, 2017

Then of course their is the ardex price premium to consider .

Simons70 · Jan 24, 2017

jcrtiling said:
Then of course their is the ardex price premium to consider .

I think is around 25-30£,you need 4-5.

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